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How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?

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Old 17-05.-2008, 07:05 AM   #2431
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Hammex, having a gun saved my life and the lives of my family. It is not so hilarious and actually makes sense when you are in this situation. I know it is an old, tired saying, but it is true that if guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns. Give it some more thought.
The point is that US is one of few countries that is in this situation. We don't see this in lots of other countries, which is why people express the view Hammex has posted above. In US, gun ownership is extremely widespread. Hence, the predicament that if you outlaw guns, the outlaws will have all the guns. If guns weren't not so widespread in the first place, you wouldn't have this ridiculous situation of needing a gun to prevent gun crime. So, IMO, the issue of guns and crime in US is very different from that in a good part of the "rest of the world", and hence the conflicting opinions of posters within and outside US.

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Old 17-05.-2008, 09:01 AM   #2432
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so it's not an absolute human right to be armed then? Why exclude school children?
You call yourself "ProfTournesol" but this objection is sophomorically silly.
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You call yourself "ProfTournesol" but this objection is sophomorically silly.
Just answer the question.
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Old 17-05.-2008, 11:04 AM   #2434
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Just answer the question.
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Old 17-05.-2008, 11:08 AM   #2435
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Just answer the question.



What if you are in a dark alley and two large imposing catfish pull a fileting knife on you and you have no catfish gun or harpoon?
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Old 17-05.-2008, 09:07 PM   #2436
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Hammex, having a gun saved my life and the lives of my family. It is not so hilarious and actually makes sense when you are in this situation. I know it is an old, tired saying, but it is true that if guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns. Give it some more thought.

Ha Ha thats the same as the drunk driver claiming they weren't injured in the crash because they were so relaxed.

You don't know that the gun saved your family because you weren't in the same position without a gun to make the comparison.

If you did't have the gun you might not have got into the position of needing saving.
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The point is that US is one of few countries that is in this situation. We don't see this in lots of other countries, which is why people express the view Hammex has posted above. In US, gun ownership is extremely widespread. Hence, the predicament that if you outlaw guns, the outlaws will have all the guns. If guns weren't not so widespread in the first place, you wouldn't have this ridiculous situation of needing a gun to prevent gun crime. So, IMO, the issue of guns and crime in US is very different from that in a good part of the "rest of the world", and hence the conflicting opinions of posters within and outside US.


You've just made the same ridiculous claim that the other gun toting good ol boys have made on this thread. There is no evidence to support the claim that carrying a gun prevents shooting. In fact the overwhelming evidence is that carrying guns mean more people get shot.

Next you'll be claiming that guns give protection.
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Old 18-05.-2008, 06:19 AM   #2438
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Ha Ha thats the same as the drunk driver claiming they weren't injured in the crash because they were so relaxed.

You don't know that the gun saved your family because you weren't in the same position without a gun to make the comparison.

If you did't have the gun you might not have got into the position of needing saving.
Laugh all you want but you have no idea of the position that I was in. I really don't want to go into it again but if you look back on post 2155 of this thread you will get an idea of the situation. I just hope, for your sake, that you never have to go through it because your laws will sign your death warrant (and that of your family if you are so blessed) in a situation like this. Of course this is assuming that you are a law abiding citizen. I hate to have to be the one to break this to you but not everyone is a law abiding citizen, and those who aren't sometimes get guns and use them. I am very happy that I was not in the same position without a gun. One person who was in that position without a gun is no longer with us and another is still living with the scars and pain of his injuries.
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Speaking of guns and freedom...

Very shortly, I will be able to legally carry concealed as I bicycle through our National Parks!!!

My Co-Motion Americano is packed and ready to go!!!

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Very shortly, I will be able to legally carry concealed as I bicycle through our National Parks!!!

yes, it's about time. ride safely!
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What if you are in a dark alley and two large imposing catfish pull a fileting knife on you and you have no catfish gun or harpoon?
I'd set them against each other ,pop open a beer and sit back to watch the fight.
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Speaking of guns and freedom...

Very shortly, I will be able to legally carry concealed as I bicycle through our National Parks!!!

My Co-Motion Americano is packed and ready to go!!!

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I'd set them against each other ,pop open a beer and sit back to watch the fight.



Damn, Obviously you have already been in that situation before.
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Very shortly, I will be able to legally carry concealed as I bicycle through our National Parks!!!

yes, it's about time. ride safely!
You and joe should get married. Then you could hide under the bed together.
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Old 21-05.-2008, 10:54 AM   #2445
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Then you could hide under the bed together.

There's no room under it. There's already a libtard nechaevist cowering under it.
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