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12-10.-2004, 02:28 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
I guess it would've been an even more shocking comparison if I'd have used the firearm death statistic from 1995 (the year the Oklahoma City bombing took place) when the number of firearm deaths in the USA was over 35,000!
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12-10.-2004, 02:48 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
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Quite a few of those 28,000 folks needed killing. Gun death numbers include justifiable homicide. |
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12-10.-2004, 06:21 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
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.... I´m glad I live in a country that enforces guncontrol. The USA is a great country. But you guys really have issues with guns... Dumb Europeans think that you are all gun toting dumb rednecks, luckily most of us know better. |
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12-10.-2004, 06:26 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
actually...i live in michigan and only know 1 person that actually carries a gun. i have TONS of acquaintances that hunt and fish and own guns. 90%% of them have them locked away somewhere in the house. a small percentage of them have them in their vehicle or readily available in their house.
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13-10.-2004, 01:59 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
1st of all, it is a funny thing about the meaning of words... Aren't liberals supposed to oppose gun control? And to the point:
Being a liberal to me means that I oppose the use (actually abuse) of regulation unless absolutely necessary, *and* concensual. The 2nd requirement is based on my assumption that regulation will not change people. Only if most people agree that such regulation is legitimate and required, it could be effective. In the US the "right to bear arms", which sounds ridiculous to me (it is evidently inconsistent with the right to live), is a common belief shared by most people, therefore gun control is morally inappropriate and is not expected to be effective either.
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13-10.-2004, 02:21 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
It's the common belief in Saudi Arabia that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. Does that make it morally appropriate to ban them from the polls?
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13-10.-2004, 03:29 AM
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 .My point is that by such regulation you could only prevent law-obiding citizens from carrying guns, while criminals would still do so... unless most people do not carry guns in the first place, and do not believe that people should carry guns except law officers. In other words, regulation is ineffective unless it is supported by the absolute majority, and if not it is immoral in the sense that it will not serve its purpose or even worse - promote criminal behaviour. I was not referring to the moral aspect of carrying guns, or the right to carry guns.
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13-10.-2004, 03:47 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
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Carry a gun to the theater, laundry, grocery store and on rides. Be prepared, not a VICTIM. BTW - a G27 fits nicely in a hip pack on road or mtb. |
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13-10.-2004, 04:28 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
I just strap on of these to my back...
 and I'm good to go. No more worries of bad guys, liberals, rogue ferrets, bill collectors, or governmant agents trying to collect my brain waves (hence the tin foil under my Giro).
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13-10.-2004, 05:15 AM
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13-10.-2004, 05:50 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
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Nice - but a little on the big size for my 56cm frame. I like this one, and some pepper spray for the dogs, coyotes and - no kidding, water moccasins. Last week my son and I had to stop for 5 minutes while a cottonmouth, who was blocking the single track, decided which way to go. Didn't spray him, as he was just confused. He slithered off down towards the creek. http://cs.felk.cvut.cz/~xruzickj/glock/G27.jpg Oh yeah, I also carry a gun to the gym, as does this girl http://www.sachsreport.com/girls%20and%20guns.jpg These gals guard the feed station on our Saturday morning group rides http://ipsc-austria.org/Deutsch/Mat.../girls-guns.jpg |
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13-10.-2004, 06:11 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
Nice Glock, that .40 S&W (10mm short) is a good caliber, too.
Snakes? Uncommon to find one around here, but much more prolific back home in Florida. Shooting them makes too much noise. Copperheads, water moccasins, rattlers, I usually just swat them with a stick, cut the head off, and carry them home for dinner. |
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13-10.-2004, 06:17 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
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I've eaten snake (cobra I think) in a restaurant, and had some good gator down in the Houston area. How do you prepare that snake? We're going on a boy scout camp out this weekend and, I need to be prepared! I guess in the old days when I carried a full size frame pump, I was better prepared to deal with snakes. You could extend those about 5 feet and get those buggers out of the way. Doesn't work so well with a little CO2 cartridge. |
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13-10.-2004, 06:22 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
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aluminum, easy super .45 conversion, but Ima Kimber whore... http://www.m1911.org/images/k6.jpg
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13-10.-2004, 06:24 AM
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Re: How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?
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Kimber is making some really fine pistolos these days. I looked at a TLE and it was every bit as nice as a Les Baer custom I bought about 15 years ago - for a lot less money. The flashlight mount is nice for night rides too. Too bad I can't mount it on my handlebar!  |
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