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What nation breeds the best cyclists?

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Old 03-12.-2004, 07:15 PM   #76
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There are no Scottish riders on Phonak


There was one on cofidis.
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Old 04-12.-2004, 02:23 AM   #77
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out of 5 million fantastic scots dwelling in this fine country it was inevitable that someone was going to let the side down.
the only performance enhancer that the rest of us take is irn bru
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Old 04-12.-2004, 10:05 AM   #78
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out of 5 million fantastic scots dwelling in this fine country it was inevitable that someone was going to let the side down.
the only performance enhancer that the rest of us take is irn bru


Mate, not to worry. Even my fine country has some bad apples.
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Old 30-12.-2004, 06:29 PM   #79
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Mate, not to worry. Even my fine country has some bad apples.

I cant believe Austrlaia didnt make their dumbass list!@$@!%!!

Do it as per-head-of-population and we must be about 20 times stronger than all other countries. Even in the TdF we are surely in the top 5 countries represented
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Old 30-12.-2004, 06:51 PM   #80
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Australia...add them to the poll!!!!

If you could see the little support that Cycling gets here in Australia compared to most other sports then you would understand that it is a miracle that anyone rides as a Pro let alone wins a green jersey (3 years straight to aussies!!!!) wears yellow/pink and wins classics
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Old 30-12.-2004, 08:26 PM   #81
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Australia...add them to the poll!!!!

If you could see the little support that Cycling gets here in Australia compared to most other sports then you would understand that it is a miracle that anyone rides as a Pro let alone wins a green jersey (3 years straight to aussies!!!!) wears yellow/pink and wins classics


I'm not sure it's entirely accurate to say cycling doesn't get much support here - it's true at the amateur domestic level, but the AIS and the state institutes and academies of sport are pretty professional and well-run for the elite. Support is growing, too, for amateurs and domestic riders.
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Old 30-12.-2004, 08:52 PM   #82
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I was only referring to Road Cycling at the amateur/domestic level. Look at the City I live in for example. 100 000 people live here.....we have approx 100 cyclists in the cycling club with only around 40 of those being racing cyclists, if it wasn't for mountain biking the 2 LBS would struggle.

At least this year the live coverage of the TOUR on SBS might generate more interest
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Old 06-01.-2005, 04:27 PM   #83
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Yes and they are ranked fourth in the world ahead of the USA acording to the UCI road rankings. THen you include the track results in the World Championships and Olympics.
There is now way anyone can claim the US is the best. You take Lance away and Tyler (he is in purgatory right now so he doesn't count) and you don't have much. I think the next highest rated rider is Bobby Julich. THis doesn't even include the track results which are a joke.
Throw in Mountain Biking which the US used to dominate and things look bad for the USA.


if u throw in BMX that goes towards the US
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Old 07-01.-2005, 09:53 PM   #84
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I was only referring to Road Cycling at the amateur/domestic level. Look at the City I live in for example. 100 000 people live here.....we have approx 100 cyclists in the cycling club with only around 40 of those being racing cyclists, if it wasn't for mountain biking the 2 LBS would struggle.

At least this year the live coverage of the TOUR on SBS might generate more interest


Similar story in my town, but we have three riders with contracts in Europe.
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Old 17-01.-2005, 06:20 AM   #85
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All of the nations sited are from Northern European lineage. Any African, Oriental, or Mideast countries?

It seems to me you are splitting hairs.
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Old 17-01.-2005, 07:40 AM   #86
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Our country must be high if we consider the population! Less than 2 million (residents, not cyclists) and we have u23 TT world champion (also second in u23 uci rankings, one other was 5th), 3rd from junior wc road race (also second in junior world cup), 5th from Athens OG, 9th from Giro...all 2004 season.

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* For one day races: Belgium!!! Face it, Belgium is the nation with the most World Champions ever, Most wins in Race Classics like Paris-Roubaix, Tour of Flanders (also after the race became more international), Milaan San-Remo, ...

* For Cyclo-Cross: Belgium again!! (23 of the 55 editions in world cyclocross championchip)

* For multi-day racings and grand tours; Italy. Belgium used to be great also in this dicipline but not any more.

*For Time-Trials: ???

* Track racings: ????

I also want to add that it is Mainly Flanders. Not bad for a region with only 6.000.000 people. I think all USA-voters here just don't know about the history of cycling. USA was dominant the last years only by Armstrong. Here in Flanders cycling is amazingly populair. Theire are (speaking in %) more people looking to the Giro than in Italy and more people looking to the Tour than in France. I think Belgium is not good anymore on Grand Tours because of we focuss to much on mud (cyclocross and motorcross) cobble stones (paris-roubaix, tour of Flanders) and other one day races, and not in Time-trialling and climbing (the things you need to win Grand-tours).
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Old 23-05.-2006, 01:01 PM   #88
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I think, you know, per capita it has to be Belgium.

Overall, though, on the road, perhaps it's between Italy and Spain.

Edit: wow, just saw the results of the poll. Ah the solipsism of our great neighbour.
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Old 23-05.-2006, 01:13 PM   #89
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I think, you know, per capita it has to be Belgium.

Overall, though, on the road, perhaps it's between Italy and Spain.

Edit: wow, just saw the results of the poll. Ah the solipsism of our great neighbour.


I just saw the results of the poll too, despite having lurked on this thread from time to time. Then I had a deep belly laugh. Then I looked up the meaning of solipsism. Then I realised that solopsism was a word that I've been looking for for ages to describe what some of the contributors to this forum are suffering from.

Great vocab CJ.
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Old 23-05.-2006, 10:39 PM   #90
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I think It is important to not look at the number of champions per capita but at the number of champions that emerge from the pool of potential champions in the country. Australia only really knows about one cycling race and that is the Tour de France or possibly some track sprinting that they see once every four years at the olympics. It is a very small sport here, with a very small participation rate. Considering this, it is remarkable that our country has produced so many talented and internationally competetive riders.
The only thing holding us back from success in the grand classics and truly becomming a force is the lack of international competition in the younger ranks due to our geographical isolation and the lack of mountains in which to develop those essential mountain climbing skills.

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