Does anyone else have trouble maintaining a food ratio (eg. 50 30 20)?

juf2m

OMG, I don't know where you get your energy from! Jogging....wow, I just took up cycling, I don't think I could ever get into jogging my knees are sore enough as it is.

I agree I need to do more weight training, no question about that. However, I am very annoyed at the lack of progress on the diet. It *should* be working and that's the frustrating part. I got so annoyed I had popcorn at the movie yesterday. I figure, if it's not going to work anyway, I might as well enjoy myself!

closesupport

if you didn't have the energy to jog you culd always try falklet! this is where you run shorter distances, rest then run the distance again and again with many rests, as you become fitter, your body will beable to cope alot more and the distances become longer, plus recovery periods become quicker also, plus when you run at lower intensities, such as jogging, you burn fat, even when you have stopped running, the body again uses the fat to aid in the recovery.

when you say you cycle, do you cycle fast, or just slow over longer periods!

i find doing similar to falket but on the bike, eg. sprint long distances, then rest, either at a lower cycle speed, or a complete rest, i reduce weight by alot more than just cycling long distances at a medium speed.

how long have you been dieting, and what kind of diet are you trying to follow? one like the missus maybe where she puts one spoon of sugur in tea opposed to 2 and doesn't use marg or butter? but ends the night with a litre of fizzy pop..

neadless to say it isn't working, but when was the last time you heard a woman really listen to anything a man says... you shouldn't give up so easy, might as well enjoy yourself, you should still be enjoying yourself, pointless making yourself suffer.

hmmm! what is it what they seconds on the lips, a life time on your hips. or the fact that nothing tastes as good as slim feels... that some the things they say to dieters, ain't it..

juf2m

Well maybe it's not so much lack of energy as lack of time (I only manage to get on the bike about 3 times a week, maybe 4 if lucky) and not wanting to bash my joints about. I like the low impact side of cycling. I think probably I wouldn't enjoy jogging and then I would be unmotivated. Plus I'd have to buy jogging shoes, and I just finished spending a fortune on all my cycling gear!

Well on the weekends I do a longer ride, 3 or 3.5 hours, and during the week I only have time for an hour or two tops. Although we don't have many hills here we have a LOT of wind which feels the same to me, especially when I'm upright on my hybrid! Depending on how much energy I have sometimes I will go very quickly, but other times I'll just ride along at a fair (not slow, but not sprinting) pace.

Sprint for long distances?? How do you define long? That sounds exhausting! But I will try to apply these principals of intervals.

Well, I have been dieting one way or another my whole life it seems! But I have been on this new diet for a little over 3 weeks. It is very balanced with little meals throughout the day. It was the balancing of the prescribed carbs/fat/protein that I was having trouble with, thus the post.

LOL! No, I don't drink much pop, I've cut that down a lot, only because of the sodium because I have always had diet pop anyway. But I am finding sticking to 1500 cals to be almost impossible, so I keep eating at the maintenance level of about 2000. *sigh* I guess eating the little meals is keeping up my metabolism because I am ALWAYS starving!

I agree!


I just get so depressed reading about all these people who lose dozens of pounds through cycling and I am getting nowhere!! My legs are definitely more toned though, and for the first time I have a cycling shorts tan!

closesupport

Cycle shorts tan... lol

i don't often wear cycle shorts hence the lack of a tan on my legs, although i do wear combat shorts when its raining, but as for tan lines they usuall start and stop around the tops of my arms and around my neck, which is pretty hideous; when i have no top on.

when you say how long are sprints, usually about 1000m. but i have other things that i like doing when i'm riding, such as spinning, one legged intervals, Jump starts, rolling starts ....etc, i find spinning to be rather taxing on energy. and usually its something that i find myself doing alot on rainy days on my way home from work. Since i know that i won't beable to ride later.

But over the last several days its been very windy here, so i have been concentrating on mashing out big gears, during one legged intervals; its good when your riding into headwinds.

when you say that the weight isn't dropping off anymore, has any dropped off since you had you BMR assest, or rather wherever you came across the information to workout how many Kcal you require.

try assessing your situation, with the activities individually that you partake in over a day, just to ensure that on some days you aren't exceeding your requirements or even not consuming enough, if you are under consuming, your body will unfortunately hold some of that back, hence the lack of weight loss.

http://www.caloriesperhour.com/index_burn.html try this with the activities... taking into consideration it isn't recommended to undercut your total calorie intake by more than 500kcal.

juf2m

Guess what? Today I stepped on the scale and I've lost 1.5lbs!!! My faith in the system has been RESTORED!!! 6.5lbs to go....That means I've lost 4.5lbs in 3.5 weeks. Not bad. Hopefully I won't pay for the popcorn and ice cream next week!



What is the difference between a jump start and a rolling start?


Well, as mentioned above, I have been on this regime since Sept 8. My BMR is 1400 cals. It's odd, rather than losing steadily each week, it holds for a couple of weeks and then drops some. I'm not complaining, as long as it keeps it up. Let's hope the trend doesn't reverse!

closesupport

if your bmr was 1400 in september and your weight has been reduced by 1.5, also i guess you have not aged a year nor have you grown in height, but your weight loss will effect your calories required, if your still eating the same amount and doing the same amount, that may be why you ain't loosing quite as much as you are hoping for.

rolling starts.
During these workouts,one has to accelerate through increasing resistance of the very large gears whilst remaining seated and travelling already at a comfortable speed eg 15-20mph Accellerating to 30-35mph.
jump starts.
During these workouts, one has to accelerate through the increasing resistance of the more comfortable to the larger gears, jumping from the seat throwing your body forward and stamping hard on the pedals and applying enough power and speed to the pedals to accellerate from almost a stop position, i find it to be best not to be in the biggest of gears but with enough to drop in gear as i require the need to return to the seat.

beginning to stray from the topic now, so i'm probably going to be in trouble once again.. sorry mod..! these are more track drills but do come in handy when the need to sprint is required.

juf2m

I love the way I am punished for my good work by having my BMR LOWERED as a result of losing weight. If that isn't unmotivating, I don't know what is! She told me never to eat less than 1500 or I would lower my metabolism though.


So in both cases you start as normal but it's how you gain speed that's different? I don't think I am physically capable of riding faster than 20mph. 35 K maybe, but 35mph? No way!!

closesupport

your BMR changes as you age grow in height or loose or add on pounds, since the formula for working out BMR is

BMR = 655 + (9.6 X weight in kilos) + (1.8 X height in cm) - (4.7 X age in years).

then multiply it by your activity level. really for best results like when you intend on dieting and you stick to your deffecit of -300/500kcals its best to know your BMR to start from. this may change each week.

I get annoyed when i see people state such like in mc donnalds they claim that a mans daily calorie intake is 2500 for healthy active people, now i can burn that in 3hrs on longer rides 3985kcal or so genating an average 385watts over that period of time.

can you imagine what trouble i would get myself into if i stuck to that calorie intake, with my energy expenditure being so high. i would sure as hell feel very hungry all the time.

thats where the calorie counter site comes in handy for working out energy expenditure over periods of time, thats really where one would really benefit from a calorie counter on a bike, so to ensure that reserves that where depleted where stored again for later stages.

unless you where a porker to start with, then maybe you could stick to a normal activity level for active and very active people.

works for me

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closesupport

rolling starts you may be travelling at 10 -15mph then without standing remaining in your seat in the biggest of gears accellerate as fast as you can over 10-20 seconds, then resuming speed.

this helps build strength in your legs i find, doing jumps starts you just spin like crazy for the same length of time as fast as you can until you feel thats as far as you can go, you can also do jump starts at faster speeds to improve sprinting, plus its part of tactics to beable to get up to speed as soon as you see your aponnent make the change and accellerate, usually around
2-300metres. but jump starts are usally started at much lower speeds than rolling starts.

i try to avoid going from stop, to clip in, since one leg is usallly on the floor and i hate removing my feet from clips once i'm clipped in.

closesupport

what weight are you now? and what would you best describe yourself as a fast recreational rider, or a casual rider.

but the best bit of info i have ever heard is if you have a sweet tooth and craving, give in indulge occassionally in moderation, or your sure to be setting yourself up for a binge at some point.

if you want to remove 500kcal perday, then make sensible eating changes, the first 250kcal should be by pasing up on calories and the other 250kcal removed through exercise.

this proceedure is slow but very rewarding to loose 1lb of fat you need to burn some 3,500kcal more than you consume, this equates to 500kcal perday resticted by doing a person will be able to loose 10 pounds in 2 months.

juf2m

I am 136.5 at the moment. I would describe myself as a recreational rider that can go fast when pushing herself! LOL!


You are so right about this. It used to be that if I were craving a certain sweet thing, I'd try to substitute by gobbling up yogurt, fruit, whatever good thing I could think of...and then I'd eat the original craving food anyway! It's better just to have the real thing and be really satisfied.


Well so far I've lost 4.5 lbs in one month, so I am happy with that, I just hope that it will keep it up, because it will slow down further as I lose.