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Old 26-10.-2005, 06:45 AM   #31
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Well, it all depends on how comfortable you want to be. If you dont mind sleeping horibbly or horrible sleeping conditions dont bother you, your methods will work fine, but if you dont sleep well under bad conditions, id suggest making yourself more comfortable. i dont, its your choice, but when i tour, eating and sleep ing are some of ,most important things that i can do, so im going to do them right.

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Old 26-10.-2005, 07:03 AM   #32
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Of course I don't want horrible sleeping conditions - that's why I'm ditching my bivvy bag. Can you be more specific about what you think I should take?
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Old 26-10.-2005, 11:52 AM   #33
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Well, no I cant, because I am not you. I have no problem with weight. I just take every laden kilometer as it comes at me with no worries or problems. any problems that show up, i deal with them accordingly. thats how i do things. But, heres what I am taking on my trip around the world, partly becuase i have it now, and partly because im poor and cant afford to buy anything else thats ultra lightweight:
1. tent - Kelty Cyclone 2 http://store.yahoo.com/mbstores-store/kelcyc2man3s.html

2. sleeping bag - North Face tundra http://http://store.yahoo.com/mbsto...fatum20dee.html

3. Bike - Trek 520 http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bik...eid=1432000&f=8

4. Clothes - almost all army surplus, and bermuda shorts(10$CND at walmart) and sports shirts(6$ for 3 at walmart) http://www.celsurplus.com

5. stove - army stove

6. Everything else i go with quality, durability and versatility for everything instead of weight. if its sometihing that is good for me and light weight thats a bonus.

tahts just what i do. anything you do is up to you. hope i gave some valuble input though.

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Old 27-10.-2005, 04:03 AM   #34
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Well, we have very different approaches. I want to go fast and light. And I love mountains and hate climbing with heavy bags. The joy of cycling is going up and down a mountain road - but the more you load up the bike, the less joy you get. Plus, I get a buzz from living out of a tiny bag. My entire load probably fits in a glove compartment.. People assume from my load that I'm just out for the day - you should see their faces when I tell them I'm away from home for many months.
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Old 27-10.-2005, 06:29 AM   #35
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i also enjoy mountain riding, but i get used to the weight after some time and i dont really notice. as far as i am concerned, im on an unloaded bike after a while. i do get a bit of a thrill out of living off very little as well though, so i know what you mean. I just like to be prepared. good luck with your trip though. maybe well run into eachother somewhere on our bikes.

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Old 29-10.-2005, 01:56 AM   #36
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i also enjoy mountain riding, but i get used to the weight after some time and i dont really notice. as far as i am concerned, im on an unloaded bike after a while. i do get a bit of a thrill out of living off very little as well though, so i know what you mean. I just like to be prepared. good luck with your trip though. maybe well run into eachother somewhere on our bikes.

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There's a nice gear list at the follwoing website, click on the "Ultralight Gear List" tab on the lefthand side of the page at

http://ultralight-hiking.com/home.html

The total weight of equipment is about 15lbs with 10lbs of food/water.
On a bike I'd expect to carry a bit more equipment like tools and spares, but less food so a $30lb goal seems to be easily attainable without too much sacrifice of comfort
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Old 29-10.-2005, 07:23 PM   #37
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There's a nice gear list at the follwoing website, click on the "Ultralight Gear List" tab on the lefthand side of the page at

http://ultralight-hiking.com/home.html

The total weight of equipment is about 15lbs with 10lbs of food/water.
On a bike I'd expect to carry a bit more equipment like tools and spares, but less food so a $30lb goal seems to be easily attainable without too much sacrifice of comfort

I like the goals of that site but unfortunately it's 5 years out of date. 900g for a bivvy? There are plenty of lighter tents than that now.
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Old 30-10.-2005, 02:57 PM   #38
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I like the goals of that site but unfortunately it's 5 years out of date. 900g for a bivvy? There are plenty of lighter tents than that now.

But its a good list of things to take and I think the graph of weights is very instructive. If a 5 year old gear list can come in at 15lbs think what today'w will be!
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Old 05-11.-2005, 12:45 AM   #39
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For folks wanting to take a stove, yet still go ultralite, check out alcohol soda can stoves. Basicly they are knock offs of the Triangia, shaving weight and have less burn time. Most can boil a couple cups of water at a time and thats it.

Vargo outdoors even makes a titanium one, just rite for guinness round world attempters. Directions are pretty basic to make one yourself from small drink cans though. The small ones (including the Ti Vargo) will fit inside a small pot/large mug (which can also be easily found in titanium).

The downside:

Fuel might be hard to come by in some places, especially if you don't speak the language.

Wind is a major factor in how well/fast they'll boil. Wind screen is mandatory.

Most types do not simmer. Use with foods that need only boiling water, or minimal cooking. A properly insulated bowl will continue to "cook" food (rice/noodles etc) after adding boiling water.

The upside:

The fuel doesn't stink up your stuff when it leaks.
Can use isopropyl (but not well), methyl (poisonos to drink-but cheap) or ethyl alcohol (rather expensive).
You can use grain alcohol (ethyl) if you want to, as well as dilute it (quite a goodly bit) and drink it. Kind of expensive though I'd think (unless your a guiness RTW record attempter).

A couple world cycle tourists have a rather nice chart of what the various fuels are named in different countries: Mark and Ju's methylated spirits page
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