Cycling and bicycle racing discussion forums.   View New Forum Topics
Today's Forum Topics

Set as homepage


Go Back   Cycling Forums > Other Stuff > Doping
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Welcome to CyclingForums.com

You are currently viewing our website as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions. You will have to register before you can post to this thread.

By joining our free online community you will have access to post new topics, communicate privately with other cyclingforums.com members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos and access other special features like product reviews and classifieds.


Millar Speaks on Doping - Armstrong

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-08.-2004, 04:32 AM   #16
wheresullrich?
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 53
Default Re: Millar Speaks on Doping - Armstrong

I support armstrong but since lance himself says millar is his friend in his book i doubt millar would ditch lance in it. you dont normally do that to your mates do you?
wheresullrich? is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 07-08.-2004, 05:29 AM   #17
zaskar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: AZ
Posts: 863
Default Re: Millar Speaks on Doping - Armstrong

IMO i don't care who is doping and who isn't, it doesn't hurt me or my family. Does it hurt or bother any of you, and why?
zaskar is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-08.-2004, 01:15 PM   #18
JohnO
Registered User
 
JohnO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,498
Default Re: Millar Speaks on Doping - Armstrong

We can also look to the case of another reformed (I hope) doper, Richard Virenque.

Assuming he's clean now, and he'd be a fool to try that twice, the absence of doping does not seem to have measurably affected his performance. So Millar's assertion that doping does not have that great an effect does seem to ring true.
JohnO is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10-08.-2004, 03:51 PM   #19
gntlmn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Anchorage, Alaska, USA
Posts: 1,672
Default Re: Millar Speaks on Doping - Armstrong

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnO
We can also look to the case of another reformed (I hope) doper, Richard Virenque.

Assuming he's clean now, and he'd be a fool to try that twice, the absence of doping does not seem to have measurably affected his performance. So Millar's assertion that doping does not have that great an effect does seem to ring true.


Maybe they were so afraid to ask anyone instructions on how to dope properly for fear of discovery that they just didn't know quite what they were doing.
gntlmn is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 11-08.-2004, 04:36 AM   #20
HellonWheels
Registered User
 
HellonWheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: on my bike
Posts: 392
Angry Re: Millar Speaks on Doping - Armstrong

[QUOTE=mojomarc]Ah, I think you're right. He did seem to backtrack, didn't he?

As far as his statement about Armstrong, I think he's right to the extent that you can't explain Armstrong's dominance by drugs. >>>>


I agree. What drives Lance is his determinatin to prove that cancer survivors CAN win a race like the TdF not once, but six times. I KNOW and UNDERSTAND how he feels because I went thru a very similar thing in my own life....ppl telling me "you can't" do this or that, when all that does is drive me to prove I CAN. In 1995 to 1997 I went thru a medical catastrophe that everyone warned me to quit trying. I didnt listen and I "won"...I had a healthy baby after four late term losses that doctors couldnt explain. Why did I keep trying? Ask Lance why he kept trying to win the TdF and you have the same answer for me. To PROVE it CAN be done.

To accuse Lance of doping is bullshit....I am currently arguing with a stupid-ass woman on another forum (diet related) who claims Lance is doping even though he tests clean. I saw thru her, and said, No, what REALLY galls you is that he won the most strenuous athletic event in the world not once but six times, using a diet YOU regard as dangerous and unhealthy (high carb) (this woman is an Atkins nut.)

Its REALLY insulting to someone like Lance, who (unlike other racers) trains YEARROUND for the TdF, sleeps in an altitude tent to naturally improve his oxygenation, who has a freakishly huge lung capacity (as tested by the Cooper Aerobics Ctr in TX), to have all his HARD WORK dismissed as "doping". I can relate because I lost a lot of weight over the last few years through HARD WORK (eating right and exercising), and to have some ppl ask me, "Gee, how did you do it, did you get that stomach surgery?" Thats is SO insulting! As if they are saying (as the false accusers do to Lance), all the hard work you did means zilch, you probably did it the easy way!


Sorry just needed to vent, both due to the charges against Lance and my own situation.
__________________
"He who conquers himself is the mightiest warrior"--Confucius
HellonWheels is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-08.-2004, 10:56 PM   #22
flysolo1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 39
Default Re: Millar Speaks on Doping - Armstrong

look performance enhancing drugs allow you to deel with pain(we as cyclist all understand pain/us racers understand extreme pain) for lance the pain from cycling is chicken shit because if you have seen anyone who has to go through chemo i would say that is pain to a different level

when we race we feel the pain and stop when lance races he feels the pain and say that does not compare and i need more that more is first on the TDF podium

if you race in any sport drugs are involved some people want that extra edge and some have it naturally im not saying that lance has not used them but for a guy 1 is not french (test random all year even before he has sex with ms.crow) 2 6 wins is being looked under a microscope he can't be on them unless the united states themselves are in conspiracy in hiding a new chemical that the government is producing to make millions

with all this i just want to say i repect miller even if he used epo and won you just dont win by using drug you have to train you royal ass off to win
flysolo1 is offline  
Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT +10. The time now is 01:18 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Copyright © 2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2001 - 2006 cyclingforums.com

Links to websites we like:
Pezcyclingnews | Cyclingnews.com | Wine Zone | iinet