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Old 19-04.-2004, 09:35 PM   #1
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Is there any technical reason at all that justifies Netti's outrageous
prices for their longs? Standard running lycra tights seem to do exactly
the same job and they're much less expensive (except maybe for Nike).

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Old 19-04.-2004, 10:22 PM   #2
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Drs wrote:
> Is there any technical reason at all that justifies Netti's outrageous
> prices for their longs? Standard running lycra tights seem to do exactly
> the same job and they're much less expensive (except maybe for Nike).




How expensive you talking about? My wife recently picked up a pair in
Melbourne for about $50. These are the ones with padding and stirrups.
My adidas long tights cost over $70 early last year.

I'm not all that impressed with Netti bike pants (long or short). Since
I've bought a pair of Sugoi knicks I'm reluctant to use anything else.
Hence three pairs of Netti's haven't seen the light of day since Xmas.



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Old 19-04.-2004, 10:31 PM   #3
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> Drs wrote:
> > Is there any technical reason at all that justifies Netti's

> outrageous > prices for their longs? Standard running lycra tights
> seem to do exactly > the same job and they're much less expensive
> (except maybe for Nike).
>
> How expensive you talking about? My wife recently picked up a pair in
> Melbourne for about $50. These are the ones with padding and stirrups.
> My adidas long tights cost over $70 early last year.


Netti longs start at $79.95 RRP ('Mercury') and go up to 139.95 RRP ('Luna
Wind Block'). Running tights end at $79.95 (Nike) and you can get things
like New Balance at Rebel for $50.

> I'm not all that impressed with Netti bike pants (long or short).


I like them, the Pronix particularly, but I'm always open to alternatives.
Right now, with the weather starting to turn (unlike most of the country,
Melbourne has a real winter), I'm looking at longs and long-sleeved jerseys
(I think arm and leg warmers are naff).

> Since I've bought a pair of Sugoi knicks I'm reluctant to use
> anything else. Hence three pairs of Netti's haven't seen the light of
> day since Xmas.


If I could afford Sugoi I would have bought the Netti already.

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Old 20-04.-2004, 10:21 AM   #4
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Drs wrote:
> Is there any technical reason at all that justifies Netti's outrageous
> prices for their longs? Standard running lycra tights seem to do exactly
> the same job and they're much less expensive (except maybe for Nike).
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Having just recieved mine on special from deanwoods and ridden in to
work, the initial impressions are VERY good

they are far better than standard running lycra's and have an extra
windproof panel on the front face. handy zipped lower ends and the
'build' quality is very good too. My previous ones were looking very
tired (altho still very useable) after 10years of solid riding so no
complaints from this little black duck!



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Old 20-04.-2004, 09:30 PM   #5
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> Drs wrote:
> > Is there any technical reason at all that justifies Netti's

> outrageous > prices for their longs? Standard running lycra tights
> seem to do exactly > the same job and they're much less expensive
> (except maybe for Nike). > --
>
> Having just recieved mine on special from deanwoods and ridden in to
> work, the initial impressions are VERY good


I don't see any longs on special at Dean Woods. What did you buy?

> they are far better than standard running lycra's and have an extra
> windproof panel on the front face. handy zipped lower ends and the
> 'build' quality is very good too. My previous ones were looking very
> tired (altho still very useable) after 10years of solid riding so no
> complaints from this little black duck!


If you're wearing them over your nix because the longs themselves aren't
padded, how useful or important is that exta windproof panel you mention? I
was thinking perhaps the biggest design difference is that bike longs might
have a higher waist than running tights but the Nettis site says they're
suitable for cross-training so that's probably not right.

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Old 21-04.-2004, 09:00 AM   #6
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Drs wrote:
> I don't see any longs on special at Dean Woods. What did you buy?
> > they are far better than standard running lycra's and have an extra
> > windproof panel on the front face. handy zipped lower ends and the
> > 'build' quality is very good too. My previous ones were looking very
> > tired (altho still very useable) after 10years of solid riding so no
> > complaints from this little black duck!

> If you're wearing them over your nix because the longs themselves
> aren't padded, how useful or important is that exta windproof panel
> you mention? I was thinking perhaps the biggest design difference is
> that bike longs might have a higher waist than running tights but the
> Nettis site says they're suitable for cross-training so that's
> probably not right.




I get a monthly (or is it fortnightly?) email outlining specials.
Usually just a reflection of their web specials but sometimes extra
stuff too!

the windproof panel along the front is great. concentrates on where you
need it most and allows the rest of the longs to be lightweight. the
panel goes from groin to approx 6inches above base. is a bit chunkier
than previous ('just' warm/elastic) longs and gathers a tad around the
knee (oh no. i wont look as cool as the other boys on Beach Rd
) but I commute anywhere between 5 and 7:30am and approx half
of that is in low-lying river regions so frost/ice/puffy breath is par
for the course. That And my first 3-4km is downhill (alas the ride
home ends in 3-4km uphill!) so long fingered gloves and good windproof
longs is mandatory otherwise bits go numb!!!

Wearing the longs over my nix is good for me as it gives me options.
Often I'll roll down to Beach Rd and get to Mordialloc (45km by then)
and take the longs off as Im too hot for Mordy-Frankston-NorthBoring

I keep telling myself if i didnt go so fast i wouldnt get so cold
downhill, but what's the fun in that?



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Old 21-04.-2004, 09:49 PM   #7
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> I get a monthly (or is it fortnightly?) email outlining specials.
> Usually just a reflection of their web specials but sometimes extra
> stuff too!


So what did you buy???

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Old 22-04.-2004, 08:21 AM   #8
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Drs wrote:
> flyingdutch <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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> > I get a monthly (or is it fortnightly?) email outlining specials.
> > Usually just a reflection of their web specials but sometimes extra
> > stuff too!

> So what did you buy???
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Dang. knew you were gonna ask me that (again). yesterday they were
hangin up in the changeing rooms at work and I couldnt be arsed going
and finding out what it said on the tag. Today they are at home as it
was 'just right' at 6:30am! Shall try and remember to suss them out
tonight/tomorrow. They dont appear to be on DWD anymore. searching,
searching... Ah, here they are!

http://www.netti.com.au/index.htm Luna Wind Block Longs



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Old 22-04.-2004, 10:14 AM   #9
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"DRS" <drs@removethis.ihug.com.au> wrote in message
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> Is there any technical reason at all that justifies Netti's outrageous
> prices for their longs? Standard running lycra tights seem to do exactly
> the same job and they're much less expensive (except maybe for Nike).
>
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LMFAO! Perhaps you should shop around?


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Old 22-04.-2004, 02:58 PM   #10
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"DRS" <drs@removethis.ihug.com.au> wrote in message
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> Is there any technical reason at all that justifies Netti's outrageous
> prices for their longs? Standard running lycra tights seem to do exactly
> the same job and they're much less expensive (except maybe for Nike).


Well, you could always go the *real* tightarse option - like me!

Target (et al) sell tights for women - lycra, lycra/cotton etc, and they are
really cheap. I bought mine for $14. No padding, cotton/lycra so not quite
as stretchy, but kept my legs warm all winter - just the same as my bike
specific tights did, but for far less outlay.

When (not if) I fall off and rip them - who cares? I've only blown a few
bucks, and can quickly replace them.

I don't think they'll let me in the ladies' change rooms, but I just picked
some tights off the rack, grabbed some jeans from the men's section as well
and pretended I only had things from the men's section when I went to try
them on. ;^)

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Old 22-04.-2004, 03:21 PM   #11
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Tony F wrote:
> I don't think they'll let me in the ladies' change rooms, but I just
> picked some tights off the rack, grabbed some jeans from the men's
> section as well and pretended I only had things from the men's section
> when I went to try them on. ;^)




Sure Tony, sure...

bet you said the same thing when asked about the lingerie too!



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Old 23-04.-2004, 12:04 AM   #12
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> Drs wrote:


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> > So what did you buy???


[...]

> http://www.netti.com.au/index.htm Luna Wind Block Longs


Ah, top of the line. When I win Tatts I might get a pair too.

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Old 23-04.-2004, 07:42 AM   #13
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Drs wrote:
> Ah, top of the line. When I win Tatts I might get a pair too.





yeah, not cheap admittedly

but i ride mon-fri and Sundays (and some Sat's wid de kids) for about 50
weeks of the year

so i can justify it to 'the treasurer'.

Tony F's Target numbers sound like a good compramise tho (altho i might
get 'her-indoors' to pick em up!)



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Old 24-04.-2004, 02:53 AM   #14
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> Target (et al) sell tights for women - lycra, lycra/cotton etc, and
> they are really cheap. I bought mine for $14. No padding,
> cotton/lycra so not quite as stretchy, but kept my legs warm all
> winter - just the same as my bike specific tights did, but for far
> less outlay.
>
> When (not if) I fall off and rip them - who cares? I've only blown a
> few bucks, and can quickly replace them.
>
> I don't think they'll let me in the ladies' change rooms, but I just
> picked some tights off the rack, grabbed some jeans from the men's
> section as well and pretended I only had things from the men's
> section when I went to try them on. ;^)


It's scary how much sense that makes. :-)

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Old 24-04.-2004, 08:06 PM   #15
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> Well, you could always go the *real* tightarse option - like me!
>
> Target (et al) sell tights for women - lycra, lycra/cotton etc, and
> they are really cheap. I bought mine for $14. No padding,
> cotton/lycra so not quite as stretchy, but kept my legs warm all
> winter - just the same as my bike specific tights did, but for far
> less outlay.


So, how do you match grrrlie sizes to bloke sizes?

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