What would it take to convince you Armstrong is clean?

craigstanton

This Paris Boy is just another insignificant frenchman. Pay him no mind. He uses typical French logic - invoking such terms as "respect," yet heaping nothing but scorn on every English-speaking person on the list from the moment he appeared on the scene; claiming that we all must be wilfully blind to doping in cycling, yet himself falling prey to baseless accusations and assumptions grounded in nothing. He compares Lance's wins to big tobacco, seeming to forget that this is just a little sport we're talking about. I love cycling, and I ride every day . . . but at stake ultimately is just a win or a loss.

The French seem to have no perspective on cycling any more - perhaps because they have such "blue balls" over not winning their own grand event for so many years. Not to be crass or anything, but it is certainly true. I offer anecdote as evidence of the national reesentment that exists - seemingly against English-speaking lands in particular. The last time we were in Paris during the tour -- during the final week of the race (once it had become very clear that Lance and his "blue train" would win yet again) we actually had difficulty finding a single bar that would tune their television to the race. We simply wanted to grab a pint and watch the race. We tried over a dozen establishments and not one would tune in the telly to the race. This was the first time I had ever witnessed such willfull blindness. It was as if the race wasn't even taking place.

Go sell your garbage someplace else, Paris Boy.

RedSky

Translated: "I don't like the fact that you see through my ridiculous trolling, so I'm now going to insult you in order to inflate my own small ego."

paris_boy

Are you a man? you whine like a little girl.
next July, please stay at home and let us watch what we want on TV.
you are such a typical American.

Ted B

The only one whining here is YOU. As for us horrible Americans, I seem to remember thousands upon thousands of horrible Americans giving their lives so that you could whine in French and not German.

Anyway, this is a cycling forum. We discuss cycling here.

craigstanton

No whining here, froggy. Just making a casual observation. Funny, I don't recall specifying that I am American at any point, either.

And isn't your "manliness" SO on display? Making empty threats from behind a computer screen, half-way around the world. I had forgotten how manly the French presence in the world is today. Thanks for reminding all of us.

babylou

Your avatar gave you away.

paris_boy

yes I know this is a cycling forum, but your cruel words need attention.

you insult the soldiers of Europe that died fighting Hitler by suggesting Americans alone rid the world of Hitler. millions of Europeans and Russians died fighting Hitler. no American monopoly on dying fighting the evil of Nazi. you did not fight Hilter until you felt threatened. better to fight him on Europe soil before he came to N. America. never suggest again that Americans alone rid the world of Hitler or you insult all the dead Europeans.

Dermo

Limerick/Dublinman,

Dont live in Dublin, but in the uk so I wont be taking up your invitation.

I am not a Lance Armstrong fan. I have though grown to respect his pre-eminence on a bike. My argument with you is to do with your slipshod and disingenuous arguments.

craigstanton

Well now, babylou, you Americans are a bunch of devils aren't you? Never doing anything halfway, much to the chagrin of the rest of the world. Even in your mistakes, you are so entirely committed. As someone wise once said, Americans are the craziest bunch of devils on the planet.

Ted B

Have a look at your own cruel, foul words before you accuse others for retaliation. We did not introduce politics and bashing of nationalities into a cycling forum.

YOU did.



Go to Normandy. Go to the American graveyard. A member of my family is buried there because he gave his life fighting in your country, for your country, for your freedom. I don't need you to give me any of your shortsighted political stupidity.

This is a forum for cycling.

limerickman

People from all nations fought at Normandy.

Britain held out from 1939-1941 against Germany - ditto Russia before America
joined the war (and that only happened after Pearl Harbour)

paris_boy

Hitler was a threat to the world not just France.

craigstanton

Ah, emmm. Cycling, gentlemen. Please take your political quibbles to AOL.

Ted B

No kidding?

The citizens of these other nations are not being bashed by P****-Boy in this thread.