why is just armstrong accused of doping?

Miguel_garcia83

dont get me wrong, you dont seem to be very into cycling. basso was one of the best amateur riders i europe when he was amateur, was amateur world champion, plus...
tour of france 2002: 11th, best young rider
tour of france 2003: 7th
ullrich has an attitudes that lance didnt, well he does now, jan was the best time trialer in the world nowadays, in the last 8 years, well not counting armstrong that he didnt know what a time trial was until 1998

RedSky

I can give you six reasons.

HuckFinn

Ullrich doping?

There are two reasons I do not think so.

First - there is a random control system organized by Telekom, the sponsor. Telekom is very anti-doping. Every rider is tested randomly in the year, by independent organisations, without any connection to races, at least 8 times a year. One rider (Heppner) was randomly tested while on vacation in Australia. This was the reason Ullrich was tested positive for exstacy while being in a rehabilitation clinic far from any cycling.

Second - Ullrich does not live for cycling. He cycles for living. He isn't embarrased by being the 4th this year. Money flows in anyway. It would make no sense for him to dope, risk everything, when he could achieve similar improvings by just training earlier and better.

wheresullrich?

Excuse me not into cycling! I wouldn't be on here if i wasnt into cycling would i?
I'm well aware that Basso won the best youg rider in 2002 and came 2nd last year and so on. Lets remember lance armstrong was also world champion in his at the age of 21 in 1993 - obviously according to you this is not a big achievement.
so does the fact that Basso has done well before mean he's not doping- NO!
how does that work-it doesn't

Just because Ullrich is a good time trial rider, second behind lance that doesn't mean he's not doping either.
He's tested positive before
This year in the run up to the tour after he won the swiss tour I didnt hear one thing about him doping lance wins something and hes doping so why isn't ullrich?

wheresullrich?

I would be embarrassed after telling everyone all year I was gonna kick Lance's butt but then nobody even noticed I was in the race.

He's been disapointed with second for so long, he muct be disapointed with 4th

and maybe if he wants to live he should live for cycling but afterall he's not going to feel the same way as lance he's not been on the verge of death

eleven24

And when Lance doesn't mysteriously die in his sleep? Will you be 90 years old telling everyone "You just wait, he's going to take a tumble and break a hip. THEN you'll all see".

HuckFinn

He didn't tell he would kick some ass.

Anyway. He is not very determined to win, and he has the body most gifted for cycling in the past 50 years (maybe except Eddie). No need to dope. Only a risk.

Miguel_garcia83

ok right, you are into cycling, but you dont remember past facts
the world championship has nothing to do with the tour, oscar freire has won twice the world championship, was 2nd in another one and 3rd in another, he should win 36 tours then
ullrich has conditions, and always had, to win the tour of france, armstrong didnt until 1999

meehs

Hahaha!!! In your opinion he's the dirtiest Miguel. Unless you're in possession of evidence that has thus far eluded the rest of the world.

Miguel_garcia83

bassos progression...
2002: 11th
2003: 7th
2004: 3rd

there is a normal progression, do you want a table with lances pregression?
he didnt time trial before 1999, he didnt climb before 1999, and all of a sudden he turnt into the best time trialer and the best climber

birdman23

NO clean riders? That is the most extreme case of hasty generalization I have ever seen. Are there dirty riders? Absolutely. Are there clean riders? Absolutely. Lance the dirtiest? Absolutely not. Lance dirty at all? Absolutely not.

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birdman23

Didn't time trial? Ummm....that's all a triathlete does. He was a triathlete and therefore I think he knew something about the TT before 1999.

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meehs

Yeah but the point is, there's a bunch of people (some right here on this forum) who desperately want to attribute all of Armstrong's success to doping. It's almost comical! Did we see Verenque win multiple tours when he was busted using EPO? Any of the other Cofidis riders? Did we see David Millar win multiple Tours when he admitted using EPO? There are numerous riders who have been busted or have admitted to using EPO. None of them are multiple Tour winners.

Miguel_garcia83

i would love to hear what he did please, besides 4th place in world championship time trial 1998