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Old 25-07.-2004, 11:48 PM   #16
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This is just too bloody rich for words. Yesterday you were beaking off that the Americans best rider was only there because he was doping. Your proof of this accusation -- ZERO! None! Nada! Zilch!

You make hateful and disparaging remarks about his personal life, which quite frankly, is no body's business, including you, including me.

And today you're snivelling about lack of respect....you got nerve, I'll give you that much. You got more nerve than a freaking toothache.

I've got loads of respect for the riders. It's the "fans" I find a little loathsome by days.

armstrong is dopped, well every rider is, but armstrong is the most, thats nothing about his personal life, unless you consider dopping a personal life fact
respect other nationalities rider is not laughing at the ones who have dissapointed at this tour, why dont you laugh at hamilton then?
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Old 25-07.-2004, 11:50 PM   #17
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"knowing you american people"? You don't know us all individually. I'm American and I like the European riders more than Armstrong, not because I have anything against Lance but I find the others more interesting. My favorite riders are Alexandre Vinokourov, Jens Voigt, Francisco Mancebo.

Jens Voigt is good, he won himself a contract for USPostal in the stage of villard de lans
how come you like mancebo?
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Old 26-07.-2004, 12:13 AM   #18
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Jens Voigt is good, he won himself a contract for USPostal in the stage of villard de lans
how come you like mancebo?

I've been a fan since TdF 2000 when he got the white jersey. He's got a quirky riding style so he's always stood out, and I think he's a good climber. I'm pleased that he placed 6th in this years Tour (that's two places below Ullrich and three above Leipheimer ) and I hope he improves in the next couple of years as he's just 28. Unfortunately Mancebo and Illes Balears-Banesto don't get much recognition here, so I don't know much about what kind of sportif José Miguel Echavarri is, what the team strategies are, etc.
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Old 26-07.-2004, 12:33 AM   #19
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I've been a fan since TdF 2000 when he got the white jersey. He's got a quirky riding style so he's always stood out, and I think he's a good climber. I'm pleased that he placed 6th in this years Tour (that's two places below Ullrich and three above Leipheimer ) and I hope he improves in the next couple of years as he's just 28. Unfortunately Mancebo and Illes Balears-Banesto don't get much recognition here, so I don't know much about what kind of sportif José Miguel Echavarri is, what the team strategies are, etc.

mancebo is what we call in spain a diesel rider, he doesnt have punch, he is not explosive and he is bad at time trial, but he doesnt fail either, he cant get better than 6th. Menchov will be the Illes Balears leaders in the following tours, unless they sign Valverde, in my opinion the young rider in the world with the most brilliant future in his legs
Echavarris strategies are not very offenssive, because excepting Delgado all of his leaders have been good at time trials but they werent climbers, so they had to deffend themselves in the mountain climbs ( Indurain, Olano, Zulle )
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Old 26-07.-2004, 12:33 AM   #20
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armstrong is dopped, well every rider is, but armstrong is the most

I think you just proved Kate's point.
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