Six-13

tonykara

Was in Brunswick Street Cycles yesterday afternoon. in there they have a 'Dale Six-13 (Centaur). its beutiful, it almost rivals the bianchi xl carbon (celeste).

has anyone ridden one? it suposidly absorbs heaps of road shock but remains lively. whatever that means! i personally am looking for a bike with chorus but if there are centaur riders out there could you pass on some comments on the gruppo

cheers

Tony

Sprinter_989

In Procycling #60 (April) there is a pretty good review on it

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ProfTournesol

I have Centaur on my Look KG361. It works, feels good. What more do you need? Chorus and Record are lighter and black.

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mfhor

I believe the 6.13 kg weight was achieved with 10-sp Dura-Ace and carbon wheels. Centaur is marginally heavier - should we sue them for false advertising?

M "light, super-light, stupid-light"H

flyingdutch

Yes, but its red! therefore it goes faster

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mfhor

Oh, I forgot. A certain bike shop where I work has an Opera with Record, Stella Azzura bars, stem, seatpost, Selle Italia SLR, silly thin tyres, latex tubes, Hyperon wheels that scrapes 6120 grams. Nya Nya Nya Nya Nya. I rode it, took a crap, rode it again and reduced the bike/rider combined weight by 5.5%. Then I ate a muesli bar, increasing the recalculated weight by 1.7%. After that, I filled my bidons, put each of them into the $149 carbon fibre bidon cages, altering the bike's weight by a massive 20%! (all calculations incredibly approximate). All the while worrying about scratching it, putting the $500 rims (just the *rim*) into a pothole/grating/idiot's car, then I took it back, dusted it off, and hung it high on the wall in the vain attempt to ensure that no-one would be tempted to spend large amounts of money on something they don't need, and will never really use for what it is intended - i.e., climbing 5%+ gradients at pro speeds. But we'll sell it anyway. Ego is a powerful thing.

Then I got back to making a $400 mountain bike's wheel straight after it was car-doored. The guy who owns it rides it 30kms to work and back, every day.He doesn't have much money.

Guess which job gave me the most satisfaction?

M "bikes are for getting places" H

flyingdutch

touche!

city laneway bike shop. perchance?

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mfhor

No, that's not me, that's the guy with the funny hair. Or have I got the wrong shop?

I'm a little more part-time, and a little more bayside.

M "Sheldon Brown's got a lot to answer for with these bogus nickname inserts" H

hippy

"mfhor" <mfhor.19wa9y@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com
> Oh, I forgot. A certain bike shop where I work has an Opera with
> Record, Stella Azzura bars, stem, seatpost, Selle Italia SLR, silly
> thin tyres, latex tubes, Hyperon wheels that scrapes 6120 grams.

What does a bike like this ride like?

I've never ridden anything that light (no sane LBSG
would let a guy my size near one! :-)) and I wonder
how much these things flex when 'tested', how much
diff the light weight makes up and down hills..
Do the feel flexy when sprinting, etc.?
How much do you trust the bars and stem when
bent over the front wheel hurtling down a bumpy
road?

hippy

rayner

from what I've read the six13 is not 6.13 kg but rather the element numbers for carbon and alluminium: six and thirteen. Hence six13. From what I've heard the centaur version is around the 8 kg mark.

hippy

"rayner" <rayner.19xety@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:rayner.19xety@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
> mfhor Wrote:
> > I believe the 6.13 kg weight was achieved with 10-sp Dura-Ace and
carbon
> > wheels. Centaur is marginally heavier - should we sue them for false
> > advertising?
> >
> > M "light, super-light, stupid-light"H
> from what I've read the six13 is not 6.13 kg but rather the element
> numbers for carbon and alluminium: six and thirteen. Hence six13. From
> what I've heard the centaur version is around the 8 kg mark.

At 6.13kg it's not even pro-legal (6.8kg minimum bike
weight) so I don't see the point other than "wow" factor.

hippy

joachim

I've got the Record Six13. Great bike. I weigh 61 kg so I'm not going to get much flex anyway. I'd probably describe the ride as stiff, but not as much so as a full AL. frame. I rode a full carbon frame but it didn't do anything for me, so I opted for both materials. Surprisingly, my bike was shipped with Cinelli RAM bar/stem and the FIZIK Aliante seat, but who's complaining?, after all the negative feedback of K-Wings. This bar/stem combo does not flex whatsoever,and the seat is super comfortable. I think the bike weighed in at around >7kgs with the pedals.

flyingdutch

So. Been dreamin of steel and Chorus???

after doing the swap of bikes it made me realise how nicely my bike fits me!

Also realised (for the first time based on some experience) that i dont like STI.
It works fine and all that and maybe if i do more crits I'd see the advantage of changing up when on the drops, but apart from that... naaahhh!!

i think i rode over an ant and could ascertain that it was missing one leg!
the road feedback/vibration/bumps was astounding

I'd be real interested to try a sloping-top-tube 853 bike for comaprison...

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tonykara

Honestly?

No...sorry.....but i have been thinking of a new bike, especially after riding your 853. i found it very smooth, so i would be interested to hear if there are some out there ridin ultrafoco or even EOM 16.5. the 853 definately absorbed all beneath it, but it seemed to flex quite abit, but again it would have to be something special to knock the bianchi XL Carbon (Alessio).

i know that they say that a good steel frame will last forever and steel is real but that bianchi is shit hot, and with my Alessio Bianchi outfit coming from europe next week, the frame cant be too far away.......i hope