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Joseba Beloki finishes Clasica Alcobendas! Mayo-Jimenez-Moncoutie

 
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Old 10-05.-2004, 03:02 AM   #1
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Default Joseba Beloki finishes Clasica Alcobendas! Mayo-Jimenez-Moncoutie

Final GC:

1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 6.27.54
2 Eladio Jimenez (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 1.57
3 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone 2.01
....
7 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 2.19
....
11 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.53
....
42 Joseba Beloki (Spa) Brioches La Boulangere 6.15

Finish race, check...

-Sonarrat.
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Old 10-05.-2004, 03:34 AM   #2
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"Sonarrat" <sonarrat@stormloader.com> wrote in message
news:sonarrat-690D66.11022909052004@corp.supernews.com...
> Final GC:
>
> 1 Iban Mayo (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 6.27.54
> 2 Eladio Jimenez (Spa) Comunidad Valenciana-Kelme 1.57
> 3 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis, le credit par Telephone 2.01
> ...
> 7 Haimar Zubeldia (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi 2.19
> ...
> 11 Oscar Sevilla (Spa) Phonak Hearing Systems 2.53
> ...
> 42 Joseba Beloki (Spa) Brioches La Boulangere 6.15
>
> Finish race, check...
>
> -Sonarrat.


That's good news about Beloki. Iban Mayo looks like he's
going to be ready for the TdF.

Mike


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Old 10-05.-2004, 10:51 AM   #3
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> 42 Joseba Beloki (Spa) Brioches La Boulangere 6.15


the horror of severe crashes can't be erased from the mind, I have some
that wake me up in the middle of the night. he won't be back, ever, to his
previous form.


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Old 10-05.-2004, 11:31 AM   #4
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> the horror of severe crashes can't be erased from the mind, I have
some
> that wake me up in the middle of the night. he won't be back, ever, to

his
> previous form.


Maybe. Or not. Some of my gutsiest racing/best descending came after my
worst crashes. Even the one that split my radius lengthwise and broke the
ulna in my left arm. Of course, that was nowhere near as severe as what
happened to Beloki, nor did I have the misfortune of being able to watch it
happen afterward. Instead, my most vivid memories are of spending maybe
five minutes going over my bike, looking for damage, before noticing that I
wasn't using my left arm and it was hanging at this kinda funny angle.

I really hope that Beloki manages a great comeback; that he wakes up one
morning and realizes that hey, if he could survive a crash like that and
recover enough to even ride a bike, anything's possible. The clock is
running though, as far as the TDF is concerned.

And then there's Dave Dravecky. I don't know if it would be a good or bad
thing for Beloki to think about what he went through!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > 42 Joseba Beloki (Spa) Brioches La Boulangere 6.15

>
>
> the horror of severe crashes can't be erased from the mind, I have

some
> that wake me up in the middle of the night. he won't be back, ever, to

his
> previous form.
>
>



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Old 10-05.-2004, 11:32 AM   #5
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"Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > 42 Joseba Beloki (Spa) Brioches La Boulangere 6.15

>
>
> the horror of severe crashes can't be erased from the mind, I have some
> that wake me up in the middle of the night. he won't be back, ever, to his
> previous form.


Pahleeze
Dave


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Old 10-05.-2004, 11:57 AM   #6
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On 05/09/2004 07:51 PM, in article
DeBnc.14409$Hs1.11871@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Callistus Valerius"
<jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> 42 Joseba Beloki (Spa) Brioches La Boulangere 6.15

>
>
> the horror of severe crashes can't be erased from the mind, I have some
> that wake me up in the middle of the night. he won't be back, ever, to his
> previous form.




AHA! It wasn't the drugs that destroyed Marco Pantani ... It was the memory
of the 1995 Milan-Turin crash. Or maybe the 1997 black cat crash in the
Giro.


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Old 10-05.-2004, 12:44 PM   #7
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> And then there's Dave Dravecky.


Who's Dave Dravecky?


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Old 10-05.-2004, 01:42 PM   #8
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> > the horror of severe crashes can't be erased from the mind, I have

> some
> > that wake me up in the middle of the night. he won't be back, ever, to

> his
> > previous form.

>
> Maybe. Or not. Some of my gutsiest racing/best descending came after my
> worst crashes. Even the one that split my radius lengthwise and broke the
> ulna in my left arm. Of course, that was nowhere near as severe as what
> happened to Beloki, nor did I have the misfortune of being able to watch it
> happen afterward. Instead, my most vivid memories are of spending maybe
> five minutes going over my bike, looking for damage, before noticing that I
> wasn't using my left arm and it was hanging at this kinda funny angle.
>
> I really hope that Beloki manages a great comeback; that he wakes up one
> morning and realizes that hey, if he could survive a crash like that and
> recover enough to even ride a bike, anything's possible. The clock is
> running though, as far as the TDF is concerned.


Or he might recover from a difficult situation like the recent TdF winner.

Mike


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Old 10-05.-2004, 03:30 PM   #9
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Jiyang Chen wrote:
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:cQBnc.6803$D96.3545@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
>
>> And then there's Dave Dravecky.

>
> Who's Dave Dravecky?


A righty, who used to be a lefty.


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Old 10-05.-2004, 04:30 PM   #10
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Robert Chung wrote:
>
> Jiyang Chen wrote:
> > Who's Dave Dravecky?

>
> A righty, who used to be a lefty.


That's not the complete story:
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/base...avecky_Dave.stm

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Old 10-05.-2004, 05:05 PM   #11
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> > > Who's Dave Dravecky?
> >
> > A righty, who used to be a lefty.

>
> That's not the complete story:


I would say Dave Dravecky's story is on par with Lance's in terms of being
inspirational, maybe more so. Unfortunately, the cancer got to Dave in a
much more serious way (loss of the entire arm & shoulder) before turning it
back. I got to hear Dave Dravecky speak at our church shortly after his
amazing comeback and subsequent broken arm. I can't even begin to describe
the inner strength that guy has. And, by all accounts I've heard, one heck
of a nice guy.

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Old 10-05.-2004, 08:07 PM   #12
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On 05/09/2004 09:44 PM, in article c7mtqm$qdr@dispatch.concentric.net,
"Jiyang Chen" <no@no.no> wrote:

>
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:cQBnc.6803$D96.3545@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
>
>> And then there's Dave Dravecky.

>
> Who's Dave Dravecky?




Former San Francisco Giant pitcher, who came back from cancer (forcing the
removal of most of the deltoid muscle in his pitching arm) to play pro ball
again, until August 15, 1989, when he broke his arm mid-pitch in "the pitch
heard 'round the world" ... The crack was so loud it was heard in the stands
and on TV.



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Old 10-05.-2004, 10:46 PM   #13
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Dave <dhansen2@socal.rr.com> wrote:

> "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> newseBnc.14409$Hs1.11871@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> > 42 Joseba Beloki (Spa) Brioches La Boulangere 6.15

>>
>>
>> the horror of severe crashes can't be erased from the mind, I have some
>> that wake me up in the middle of the night. he won't be back, ever, to his
>> previous form.


> Pahleeze
> Dave


For a nutbag like him it is very plausible. I wonder if there were any
head injuries involved.

Bob Schwartz
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Old 11-05.-2004, 12:10 AM   #14
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"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
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> Dave <dhansen2@socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > "Callistus Valerius" <jazzyboss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > newseBnc.14409$Hs1.11871@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> > 42 Joseba Beloki (Spa) Brioches La Boulangere

6.15
> >>
> >> the horror of severe crashes can't be erased from the mind, I have

some
> >> that wake me up in the middle of the night. he won't be back, ever, to

his
> >> previous form.

>
> > Pahleeze

>
> For a nutbag like him it is very plausible. I wonder if there were any
> head injuries involved.


I assume you mean Caliistus.


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Old 11-05.-2004, 12:53 AM   #15
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"Michael" <mdw3@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message news:<kLDnc.29070$ee7.27618@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:cQBnc.6803$D96.3545@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
> > > the horror of severe crashes can't be erased from the mind, I have

> some
> > > that wake me up in the middle of the night. he won't be back, ever, to

> his
> > > previous form.

> >
> > Maybe. Or not. Some of my gutsiest racing/best descending came after my
> > worst crashes. Even the one that split my radius lengthwise and broke the
> > ulna in my left arm. Of course, that was nowhere near as severe as what
> > happened to Beloki, nor did I have the misfortune of being able to watch it
> > happen afterward. Instead, my most vivid memories are of spending maybe
> > five minutes going over my bike, looking for damage, before noticing that I
> > wasn't using my left arm and it was hanging at this kinda funny angle.
> >
> > I really hope that Beloki manages a great comeback; that he wakes up one
> > morning and realizes that hey, if he could survive a crash like that and
> > recover enough to even ride a bike, anything's possible. The clock is
> > running though, as far as the TDF is concerned.

>
> Or he might recover from a difficult situation like the recent TdF winner.
>
> Mike



Beyond a shadow of a doubt, we will SEE inspirational video showing
his crash, crying in the arms of Manolo Saiz, lying in a hospital bed,
a diagram or xray of the fractured femur, bits of titanium which have
been inserted into his leg, struggling to get back on the bike for
training and his first few difficult races. We'll also hear the soft
voice-over questions, can he come back, can this tough little basque
return to former glory, etc.

On one note, he does seem to be faring a better in races of late than
Jan.
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