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Breaking chain for fixed gear

 
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Old 29-04.-2004, 12:03 PM   #31
B.C. Cletta
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John Dacey <jdacey@businesscycles.com> wrote in message news:<33jt805d5m189u8bq6vi0mgvdv82qavgge@4ax.com>...
> On 26 Apr 2004 17:51:49 -0700, bc_cletta@yahoo.com (B.C. Cletta)
> wrote:
>
> > i know people who swear by the IZUMI Eco, 20-USD, bushed, quiet,
> >NJS.

>
> It may be that some people will find the Izumi chain model commonly
> called "Eco" to have some satisfactory qualities, but certification
> for professional Keirin use (the NJS logo) isn't among them.
>
> I assume you're innocently repeating what you've read about this chain
> elsewhere. I will leave for others to determine if the ebay
> entrepeneurs and other vendors that claim NJS credentials for this
> model do so out of simple cluelessness, or if they're intentionally
> practicing upon the inexperience of those whom they would entice to
> buy the chain.


said to be an "Eco" & he got the pic right but i will defer to your experience:
<http://snipurl.com/612s>

what about these? seems kinda low end.
<http://snipurl.com/612v>

> -------------------------------
> John Dacey
> Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
> Since 1983
> Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
> http://www.businesscycles.com

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Old 30-04.-2004, 02:39 AM   #32
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On 28 Apr 2004 20:03:06 -0700, bc_cletta@yahoo.com (B.C. Cletta)
wrote:

>John Dacey <jdacey@businesscycles.com> wrote in message news:<33jt805d5m189u8bq6vi0mgvdv82qavgge@4ax.com>...
>> On 26 Apr 2004 17:51:49 -0700, bc_cletta@yahoo.com (B.C. Cletta)
>> wrote:
>>
>> > i know people who swear by the IZUMI Eco, 20-USD, bushed, quiet,
>> >NJS.

>>
>> It may be that some people will find the Izumi chain model commonly
>> called "Eco" to have some satisfactory qualities, but certification
>> for professional Keirin use (the NJS logo) isn't among them.
>>
>> I assume you're innocently repeating what you've read about this chain
>> elsewhere. I will leave for others to determine if the ebay
>> entrepeneurs and other vendors that claim NJS credentials for this
>> model do so out of simple cluelessness, or if they're intentionally
>> practicing upon the inexperience of those whom they would entice to
>> buy the chain.

>
> said to be an "Eco" & he got the pic right but i will defer to your experience:
><http://snipurl.com/612s>


The imprimatur signifying keirin certification (NJS logo) appears
neither on the packaging nor on any of the chain's links. This model
is _not_ approved for professional keirin use.

> what about these? seems kinda low end.
><http://snipurl.com/612v>


Except for the dustcap, the pedal in the photos is a dead ringer for
the MKS "Sylvan Track", which does not have pro keirin credentials.
However, a closeup of the rear cage shows it to actually be a MKS
"Unique Custom" model, whose rear cage is stamped with the NJS logo
(upper right of cage), signifying that it does, in fact, have keirin
certification.

The Sylvan Track and Unique Custom models are quite good values, but
few people will mistake their finish, bearing quality and weight with
one of MKS' premium track pedals like the RX-1, Custom Nuevo or Royal
Nuevo.
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Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
Since 1983
Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
http://www.businesscycles.com
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Old 30-04.-2004, 01:02 PM   #33
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John Dacey <jdacey@businesscycles.com> wrote in message news:<ajd290p3f9phovt2oi1fq9cipt1n9upos1@4ax.com>...
> On 28 Apr 2004 20:03:06 -0700, bc_cletta@yahoo.com (B.C. Cletta)
> wrote:
>
> >John Dacey <jdacey@businesscycles.com> wrote in message news:<33jt805d5m189u8bq6vi0mgvdv82qavgge@4ax.com>...
> >> On 26 Apr 2004 17:51:49 -0700, bc_cletta@yahoo.com (B.C. Cletta)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > i know people who swear by the IZUMI Eco, 20-USD, bushed, quiet,
> >> >NJS.
> >>
> >> It may be that some people will find the Izumi chain model commonly
> >> called "Eco" to have some satisfactory qualities, but certification
> >> for professional Keirin use (the NJS logo) isn't among them.
> >>
> >> I assume you're innocently repeating what you've read about this chain
> >> elsewhere. I will leave for others to determine if the ebay
> >> entrepeneurs and other vendors that claim NJS credentials for this
> >> model do so out of simple cluelessness, or if they're intentionally
> >> practicing upon the inexperience of those whom they would entice to
> >> buy the chain.

> >
> > said to be an "Eco" & he got the pic right but i will defer to your experience:
> ><http://snipurl.com/612s>

>
> The imprimatur signifying keirin certification (NJS logo) appears
> neither on the packaging nor on any of the chain's links. This model
> is _not_ approved for professional keirin use.


sorry, guess i should have noted that mid photo far right, one (&
only one) link has what looks like the NJS circle(?).

> > what about these? seems kinda low end.
> ><http://snipurl.com/612v>

>
> Except for the dustcap, the pedal in the photos is a dead ringer for
> the MKS "Sylvan Track", which does not have pro keirin credentials.
> However, a closeup of the rear cage shows it to actually be a MKS
> "Unique Custom" model, whose rear cage is stamped with the NJS logo
> (upper right of cage), signifying that it does, in fact, have keirin
> certification.
>
> The Sylvan Track and Unique Custom models are quite good values, but
> few people will mistake their finish, bearing quality and weight with
> one of MKS' premium track pedals like the RX-1, Custom Nuevo or Royal
> Nuevo.


the Sylvan are OK but i think the spindle bends a little too
easily. the Unique Custom might address this issue.

> -------------------------------
> John Dacey
> Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
> Since 1983
> Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
> http://www.businesscycles.com

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Old 01-05.-2004, 01:33 PM   #34
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On 29 Apr 2004 21:02:19 -0700, bc_cletta@yahoo.com (B.C. Cletta)
wrote:

>> >> > i know people who swear by the IZUMI Eco, 20-USD, bushed, quiet,
>> >> >NJS.
>> >>
>> >> It may be that some people will find the Izumi chain model commonly
>> >> called "Eco" to have some satisfactory qualities, but certification
>> >> for professional Keirin use (the NJS logo) isn't among them.
>> >>
>> >> I assume you're innocently repeating what you've read about this chain
>> >> elsewhere. I will leave for others to determine if the ebay
>> >> entrepeneurs and other vendors that claim NJS credentials for this
>> >> model do so out of simple cluelessness, or if they're intentionally
>> >> practicing upon the inexperience of those whom they would entice to
>> >> buy the chain.
>> >
>> > said to be an "Eco" & he got the pic right but i will defer to your experience:
>> ><http://snipurl.com/612s>

>>
>> The imprimatur signifying keirin certification (NJS logo) appears
>> neither on the packaging nor on any of the chain's links. This model
>> is _not_ approved for professional keirin use.

>
> sorry, guess i should have noted that mid photo far right, one (&
>only one) link has what looks like the NJS circle(?).


That's a JIS symbol, seen here on the left side of the wrench flat on
the axle of a MKS Custom Unique pedal in this picture:
http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/jis3.jpg (43.2k file
size)

The NJS logo is seen at the right of the same pedal's rear cage plate
here:
http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/nis_njs.jpg (33.5k file
size)


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http://www.businesscycles.com
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Old 01-05.-2004, 06:08 PM   #35
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John Dacey wrote:

> That's a JIS symbol, seen here on the left side of the wrench flat on
> the axle of a MKS Custom Unique pedal in this picture:
> http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/jis3.jpg (43.2k file
> size)
>
> The NJS logo is seen at the right of the same pedal's rear cage plate
> here:
> http://www.businesscycles.com/graphics/nis_njs.jpg (33.5k file
> size)
>
>

Nice photos. Here's another:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/NJS.JPG


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