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Old 21-04.-2004, 11:26 AM   #16
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Werehatrack wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:26:09 -0400, Sheldon Brown
> <captbike@sheldonbrown.com> may have said:
>
>
>>Is there a reasonably priced News server I could subscribe to that would
>>offer a good choices of Newsgroups, and would allow me to use the same
>>passwords/logins regardless of how I was connected?

>
>
> Huh? Configure your newsreader to login with an ID and password
> regardless of where you're connected, and it should not care about
> that.


Some ISPs allow access to their news servers only for clients on their
subnets, with no authentication. Once you're outside of their network, no
access.

Greg



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Old 21-04.-2004, 12:15 PM   #17
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:30:57 -0500, Patrick Lamb wrote:

> Alas, Comcast uses a partially disabled Giganews account that only
> allows access from within Comcast (and probably only within a certain
> region).


I imagine that is fairly common. My U server does the same thing. In
fact, it only allows access from a *.lehigh.edu computer, which is a pain.
For a while I*ran a forwarding account through my office machine, but
have since decided to just use comcast from the home machine, remotely
displaying the newsreader (with X windows this is trivial)*if I have to
see it from somewhere else.

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Old 21-04.-2004, 12:18 PM   #18
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Dane Jackson wrote:
> Bah! tin forever!
>
>


Good lord, Sheldon. You've managed to rile up the *nix zealots. God help
us all now! ;-)


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Old 21-04.-2004, 01:00 PM   #19
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 02:02:33 GMT, "Matt O'Toole" <matt@deltanet.com>
may have said:

>Werehatrack wrote:
>
>> Huh? Configure your newsreader to login with an ID and password
>> regardless of where you're connected, and it should not care about
>> that. Some hotel broadband nets block port 25 to keep spammers from
>> using them as access points, but I haven't run into one yet that keeps
>> me from using my usual nntp host...and your existing Earthlink account
>> should give you access to news.earthlink.net from *anywhere*. (But
>> their retention stinks.)

>
>I don't know about Earthlink, but most ISPs won't let you connect to their NNTP
>or SMTP servers from outside their own network.


I've been able to access both Earthlink's server and the one I had
with my prior ISP from network connections at various locations, the
difference being that with the old ISP, a login was required only if
accessing from outside the network. Now *both* require a login, which
is a development that should be more common than it is. If no login
is required for in-network connections, a news server can be flooded
or spammed via any open proxy on a customer's system, and the average
broadband network has hundreds or thousands of customers running such
proxies.

Of course, ISP news servers generally have shallow spools and spotty
group coverage, so a third-party service is still a better idea if the
budget can support it. (As should be obvious, that's what *I* do.)
It also has another advantage in that it requires slightly less
address munging in order to protect against harvesting. If you're
posting from a news server within the same domain as your email
address, spammer harvesting bots will routinely attempt to demunge
your addy by taking the username out of the "From:" field of the
headers of your posts, and the domain name from the message-ID, and
combining them. If you munge only the domain in your address, you'll
still get harvested in that situation. If you munge both halves, you
won't. If you post from a different domain than you use for email,
the matchup won't score a hit on *your* address even if you munge only
the domain.

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Old 21-04.-2004, 01:01 PM   #20
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 03:18:11 GMT, "HardwareLust" <noone@nowhere.com>
may have said:

>Dane Jackson wrote:
>> Bah! tin forever!
>>
>>

>
>Good lord, Sheldon. You've managed to rile up the *nix zealots. God help
>us all now! ;-)


Don't fear the penguins, even if they are stealing your sanity one by
one!

(obligatory multiple pop-culture reference)

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Old 22-04.-2004, 01:04 AM   #21
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Sheldon Brown <captbike@sheldonbrown.com> wrote:

> Sorry to be O.T. but this is the main group I use, and I feel entitled
> to ask a question for a change.
>
> I schlep my Ti Powerbook back and forth all the time. At home I have
> Comcast cable; at the shop I have a DSL connection. When I'm out of
> town I use Earthlink dialup or sometimes various hotel based isps.
>

If you haven't figured this out yet, there is another good option, Tera news
offers a free account after a 3.95 setup fee. If I were you I would sign up
at news.individual.net as well, since it is free.
http://www.teranews.com/
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Old 29-04.-2004, 01:16 AM   #22
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In article <40854111.4090400@sheldonbrown.com>,
Sheldon Brown <captbike@sheldonbrown.com> wrote:

> Is there a reasonably priced News server I could subscribe to that would
> offer a good choices of Newsgroups, and would allow me to use the same
> passwords/logins regardless of how I was connected?
>
> I very much like the Netscape News software, and want to continue to use it.


I also recommend http://news.individual.net/. I access it at home and at
work.

I have not used Netscape News, but if it is similar to Mozilla, I would
say you are missing out by not using MT-Newswatcher.

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Mike DeMicco <blaster186REMOVE_THIS@comcast.net>
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