Headset Spacers, Do it Yourself?

S o r n i

Whoops
I'm the idiot

"S o r n i" <sorni@bite-me.san.rr.com> wrote in message
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> You're an idiot.
>
> Bill "Seeeeee????????????" S.
>
> MGS wrote:
> > <jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org> wrote in message
> > news:Atjgc.6387$Fo4.76951@typhoon.sonic.net...
> >> Rick Onanian writes:
> >>
> >>>> Not everyone reads news sorted in threads, you should keep some of
> >>>> the context, either by leaving the subject alone, or keeping some
> >>>> relevant content in the body.
> >>
> >>> I read news sorted by thread, but this post didn't show up under an
> >>> existing thread.
> >>
> >>> Leaving the subject line alone isn't sufficient. Quote exactly what
> >>> you're replying to (no more, no less), preferably directly above
> >>> each point you make.
> >>
> >> I think "top responders" and "non-includers" are incorrigible, not
> >> being able to see the logic of showing the development of a thread
> >> (or even that it is a thread) that leads to the current response.
> >> I've seen the defense of "top responders" over the years and am not
> >> encouraged.
> >>
> >> This subject line, for instance, is misspelled, but to respond to it
> >> means to leave it stand. Fortunately many of the "top responders"
> >> don't notice spelling anyway so at least we can see what it is they
> >> are talking about... maybe. In this case it didn't work at all. I
> >> have no idea what it is all about other than failed communication.
> >>
> >> Jobst Brandt
> >> jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, not everyone delights to the idea of having to scroll
> > through multiple lines of previously read information in order to get
> > the information found in a simple one line response.
> >
> > On my newsgroup, my posting followed sequentially a rather lengthy
> > line of posts that all pointed to the fact that spacers for headsets
> > were easily found at almost any bike shop or bike listing on the
> > internet.
> >
> > The succinctness of some posts is what makes them sweet and to the
> > point.
> >
> > I for one like top posting.
> >
> > Call me incorrigible So be it. I've been called worse.
> >
> > I find others are not unlike lemmings, following those who appear to
> > dictate the standards of the newsgroups.
> >
> > And as has been said before, "you're not the boss of me."
>
>

Chris B.

begin On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 01:44:14 GMT, "MGS"
<msiegel@removecinci.rr.com(remove the remove)> wrote:

><jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org> wrote in message
>news:Atjgc.6387$Fo4.76951@typhoon.sonic.net...

<snip>
>> I think "top responders" and "non-includers" are incorrigible, not
>> being able to see the logic of showing the development of a thread (or
>> even that it is a thread) that leads to the current response. I've
>> seen the defense of "top responders" over the years and am not
>> encouraged.
>>
>> This subject line, for instance, is misspelled, but to respond to it
>> means to leave it stand. Fortunately many of the "top responders"
>> don't notice spelling anyway so at least we can see what it is they
>> are talking about... maybe. In this case it didn't work at all. I
>> have no idea what it is all about other than failed communication.

>Unfortunately, not everyone delights to the idea of having to scroll through
>multiple lines of previously read information in order to get the
>information found in a simple one line response.

If the sole content of a post is a 'simple one line response' then it
is unlikely that it was neccessary to quote reams of text above it.
Extraneous text as well as signatures can be judiciously removed - the
fact that you are unable or unwilling notwithstanding.

>On my newsgroup,

Classic.

>my posting followed sequentially a rather lengthy line of
>posts that all pointed to the fact that spacers for headsets were easily
>found at almost any bike shop or bike listing on the internet.

Are you referring to the post which contained some devastatingly
insightful advice about who the hell knows?

"The're everywhere, just do a search

Every decent local bike shop.
Almost every on line site sells them in various lengths.

Do a net search, you'll find multiple hits."

This is some profound stuff, to be sure.

>The succinctness of some posts is what makes them sweet and to the point.

To describe your previous post as a 'fart' would be overwhelmingly
generous.

>I for one like top posting.

It seems illogical to call it top posting when you don't include any
quoted material, no?

>Call me incorrigible So be it. I've been called worse.

> I find others are not unlike lemmings, following those who appear to
>dictate the standards of the newsgroups.
>
>And as has been said before, "you're not the boss of me."

Certainly, you can continue to post random, useless shit in whatever
bizzare fashion you like. I actually prefer that people who prefer to
top post do so, as I then waste less time scrolling through the
voluminous quoted text and signatures that they refuse to trim in
order to read the simple one line piece of piffle that is almost
always offered.

Chris B.

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 03:59:39 GMT, "MGS"
<msiegel@removecinci.rr.com(remove the remove), impersonating Sorni
wrote:

>Whoops
>I'm the idiot

Well, if impersonating someone (including using their email address)
is a violation of Roadrunner's TOS, then I might have to agree.

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S o r n i

Chris B. wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 03:59:39 GMT, "MGS"
> <msiegel@removecinci.rr.com(remove the remove), impersonating Sorni
> wrote:
>
>> Whoops
>> I'm the idiot
>
> Well, if impersonating someone (including using their email address)
> is a violation of Roadrunner's TOS, then I might have to agree.

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Thanks, Chris. Guess ol' MGS just proved my point.

Bill "the REAL me" S.

jeffbonny

So "MGS" <msiegel@removecinci.rr.com(remove the remove)> says:

>Unfortunately, not everyone delights to the idea of having to scroll through
>multiple lines of previously read information in order to get the
>information found in a simple one line response.
>
>On my newsgroup, my posting followed sequentially a rather lengthy line of
>posts that all pointed to the fact that spacers for headsets were easily
>found at almost any bike shop or bike listing on the internet.
>
>The succinctness of some posts is what makes them sweet and to the point.
>
>I for one like top posting.
>
>Call me incorrigible So be it. I've been called worse.
>
> I find others are not unlike lemmings, following those who appear to
>dictate the standards of the newsgroups.
>
>And as has been said before, "you're not the boss of me."
>


..least the say to not moronity pigheaded and least the say to
inconsiderate is posting Top .question the asking THEN answering like
it put someone As .context without be to seems often most reply the
post top you When

?now it Get

Marty Wallace

"jeffbonny" <jeffbonny@REMCAPSshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> So "MGS" <msiegel@removecinci.rr.com(remove the remove)> says:
>
> >Unfortunately, not everyone delights to the idea of having to scroll
through
> >multiple lines of previously read information in order to get the
> >information found in a simple one line response.
> >
> >On my newsgroup, my posting followed sequentially a rather lengthy line
of
> >posts that all pointed to the fact that spacers for headsets were easily
> >found at almost any bike shop or bike listing on the internet.
> >
> >The succinctness of some posts is what makes them sweet and to the point.
> >
> >I for one like top posting.
> >
> >Call me incorrigible So be it. I've been called worse.
> >
> > I find others are not unlike lemmings, following those who appear to
> >dictate the standards of the newsgroups.
> >
> >And as has been said before, "you're not the boss of me."
> >
>
>
> .least the say to not moronity pigheaded and least the say to
> inconsiderate is posting Top .question the asking THEN answering like
> it put someone As .context without be to seems often most reply the
> post top you When
>
> ?now it Get

That was clever but it made my brain hurt.

Marty

B a r r y

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 01:44:14 GMT, "MGS"
<msiegel@removecinci.rr.com(remove the remove)> wrote:

>Unfortunately, not everyone delights to the idea of having to scroll through
>multiple lines of previously read information in order to get the
>information found in a simple one line response.

That's why knowledgeable users edit the quoted text, just as I have.

See how easy that was?

Barry

Paul Kopit

On 16 Apr 2004 18:16:17 -0700, chumpychump@hotmail.com (Chalo) wrote:

>Your LBS has access to both those sizes in silver, black, or carbon;
>cylindrical or conical. Why don't you ask there?

Thanks for the info. I just looked at what my distributor was
offering in the Wheels Mfg. line and saw that they stopped at 20.

S o r n i

jeffbonny wrote:
>
> .least the say to not moronity pigheaded and least the say to
> inconsiderate is posting Top .question the asking THEN answering like
> it put someone As .context without be to seems often most reply the
> post top you When

Thought you were channeling g. daniels there for a minute!

Bill "doubt he'll (MSG sic) get it even now" S.

eric h

In article <O3lgc.30138$B%4.15833@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
MGS <msiegel@removecinci.rr.com(remove the remove)> wrote:

>Unfortunately, not everyone delights to the idea of having to scroll through
>multiple lines of previously read information in order to get the
>information found in a simple one line response.

Nor do I. This why most newsreading and posting software, even the crappy
software from Micros~1, comes with a handy-dandy editor that allows you to
chop out all but the relevant nuggets, as I did in this helpful example.

>And as has been said before, "you're not the boss of me."

Oh, dear me. The top-posters are revolting, as they usually are. Of
course, Usenet already has no shortage of those who are duty-bound to
behave or misbehave precisely as they see fit, without regard to any
steenkin' conventions. So you've got plenty of company.

--
---
"I never had to pretend I felt the lyrics. I could always relate to the words."
--Teddy Pendergrass

DRS

MGS <msiegel@removecinci.rr.com(remove the remove)> wrote in message
O3lgc.30138$B%4.15833@fe2.columbus.rr.com

[...]

> I find others are not unlike lemmings, following those who appear to
> dictate the standards of the newsgroups.

Usenet standards, including bottom or inline posting, have evolved over many
years for very good reasons.

> And as has been said before, "you're not the boss of me."

Free hint: it's not just about you.

In any event, you may find this link useful:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

--

"Posting at the top because that's where the cursor happened to be is like
shitting in your pants because that's where your asshole happened to be."
Andreas Prilop

Mark Hickey

ehol@deuce.xmission.com (eric h) wrote:

>In article <O3lgc.30138$B%4.15833@fe2.columbus.rr.com>,
> MGS <msiegel@removecinci.rr.com(remove the remove)> wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately, not everyone delights to the idea of having to scroll through
>>multiple lines of previously read information in order to get the
>>information found in a simple one line response.
>
>Nor do I. This why most newsreading and posting software, even the crappy
>software from Micros~1, comes with a handy-dandy editor that allows you to
>chop out all but the relevant nuggets, as I did in this helpful example.
>
>>And as has been said before, "you're not the boss of me."
>
>Oh, dear me. The top-posters are revolting, as they usually are. Of
>course, Usenet already has no shortage of those who are duty-bound to
>behave or misbehave precisely as they see fit, without regard to any
>steenkin' conventions. So you've got plenty of company.

There are times when top-posting makes sense (for example, a brief "I
agree"or pithy comment regarding a lengthy paragraph (and nothing
else) directly below).

However, for most other times it's simply a way to make sure that many
of us ignore your comments (no matter how valid otherwise). There is
SO much info out there, it's unusual for people to take the time to
try to decipher an otherwise unrelated reply to "something" below. I
tend to just click by top posts without reading them as a result.

Bottom line (pun intended), if you want to be understood, bottom post.
If you don't care if everyone reads or correctly interprets your
comments, feel free to top post.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

David Damerell

Rick Onanian <spamsink@cox.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:59:06 GMT, "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com>
>wrote:
>>Not everyone reads news sorted in threads, you should keep some of the
>>context, either by leaving the subject alone, or keeping some relevant
>>content in the body.
>I read news sorted by thread, but this post didn't show up under an
>existing thread.

That's because whatever you read news with wrongly presents a change of
subject as a new thread. The References: lines were correct throughout.

.... not that that excuses no-context posting.
--
David Damerell <damerell@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Distortion Field!

Werehatrack

On 19 Apr 2004 13:07:56 +0100 (BST), David Damerell
<damerell@chiark.greenend.org.uk> may have said:

>Rick Onanian <spamsink@cox.net> wrote:
>>I read news sorted by thread, but this post didn't show up under an
>>existing thread.
>
>That's because whatever you read news with wrongly presents a change of
>subject as a new thread. The References: lines were correct throughout.

Only a valid point if the spool or reader had the earlier articles
available to refer to. This is not guaranteed.

>... not that that excuses no-context posting.

And the point I raised above is the *other* reason why context must be
carried forward.

--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.