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Terrorist cyclists selfish, mean-spirited, dangerous and aggressive

 
 
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Old 18-07.-2004, 11:19 PM   #1
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Letter to the Editor of Sydney Morning Herald 19/7/04

Idiots on two wheels

Am I alone in my alarm at the increase in reckless riding by
bicyclists? In busy, crowded inner-city streets, confronting behaviour
by cyclists is making life hell for both pedestrians and motorists.

Irresponsible weaving in and out of traffic, mounting the footpath at
speed in shopping centres and barging into pedestrians, riding against
the traffic, pushing through pedestrian crossings and through red
lights are just part of their general bad behaviour.

A huge proportion of the offending riders are in dark clothes, have no
lights, reflectors, warning bells and are usually not wearing helmets.
They are selfish, mean-spirited, dangerous and aggressive.

Far from being good for society, these terrorists of the road have no
respect for anyone. The police and the councils are doing nothing
about them, even though these riders are flouting many laws and are
making a nuisance of themselves everywhere. Why won't they act?

Bicycles should be registered, have all safety equipment fitted and be
inspected like motor vehicles. The cyclists should be licensed, or at
least have a competency certificate issued if they are to use bicycles
as commuter transport. A crackdown on the idiot element is long
overdue.

Jenny Ward, Erskineville, July 16.
 
Old 19-07.-2004, 12:38 AM   #2
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"captainmaniscalco" <captainmaniscalco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Letter to the Editor of Sydney Morning Herald 19/7/04


Don't you just love google? They'll let anyone (even an anonymous coward)
post from their server...

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Old 19-07.-2004, 12:58 AM   #3
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Alan Erskine wrote:

> "captainmaniscalco" <captainmaniscalco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8dbea231.0407180619.19d17b0f@posting.google.com...
>
>>Letter to the Editor of Sydney Morning Herald 19/7/04

>
>
> Don't you just love google? They'll let anyone (even an anonymous coward)
> post from their server...
>

Yup 172.190.78.41 an AOL luser to boot.
To be expected.
 
Old 19-07.-2004, 03:31 AM   #4
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"Alan Erskine" <alanerskine1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:hQwKc.6614$K53.189@news-server.bigpond.net.au
> "captainmaniscalco" <captainmaniscalco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8dbea231.0407180619.19d17b0f@posting.google.com...
>> Letter to the Editor of Sydney Morning Herald 19/7/04

>
> Don't you just love google? They'll let anyone (even an anonymous
> coward) post from their server...


Your point, caller?

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Old 19-07.-2004, 06:57 AM   #5
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Your point, troll ?

John L.

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 04:31:07 +1000, "DRS"
<drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> wrote:

>"Alan Erskine" <alanerskine1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>news:hQwKc.6614$K53.189@news-server.bigpond.net.au
>> "captainmaniscalco" <captainmaniscalco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8dbea231.0407180619.19d17b0f@posting.google.com...
>>> Letter to the Editor of Sydney Morning Herald 19/7/04

>>
>> Don't you just love google? They'll let anyone (even an anonymous
>> coward) post from their server...

>
>Your point, caller?


 
Old 19-07.-2004, 07:03 AM   #6
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What a fuckwit. And I suppose she goes barging around in a two tonne
environment-destroying tank like everyone else.
Regards,
R.

captainmaniscalco wrote:

>Letter to the Editor of Sydney Morning Herald 19/7/04
>
>Idiots on two wheels
>
>Am I alone in my alarm at the increase in reckless riding by
>bicyclists? In busy, crowded inner-city streets, confronting behaviour
>by cyclists is making life hell for both pedestrians and motorists.
>
>Irresponsible weaving in and out of traffic, mounting the footpath at
>speed in shopping centres and barging into pedestrians, riding against
>the traffic, pushing through pedestrian crossings and through red
>lights are just part of their general bad behaviour.
>
>A huge proportion of the offending riders are in dark clothes, have no
>lights, reflectors, warning bells and are usually not wearing helmets.
>They are selfish, mean-spirited, dangerous and aggressive.
>
>Far from being good for society, these terrorists of the road have no
>respect for anyone. The police and the councils are doing nothing
>about them, even though these riders are flouting many laws and are
>making a nuisance of themselves everywhere. Why won't they act?
>
>Bicycles should be registered, have all safety equipment fitted and be
>inspected like motor vehicles. The cyclists should be licensed, or at
>least have a competency certificate issued if they are to use bicycles
>as commuter transport. A crackdown on the idiot element is long
>overdue.
>
>Jenny Ward, Erskineville, July 16.
>


 
Old 19-07.-2004, 07:44 AM   #7
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"John L" <johnlawrence.spammerssoff@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 04:31:07 +1000, "DRS"
> <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> wrote:
>> "Alan Erskine" <alanerskine1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> news:hQwKc.6614$K53.189@news-server.bigpond.net.au
>>> "captainmaniscalco" <captainmaniscalco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8dbea231.0407180619.19d17b0f@posting.google.com...
>>>> Letter to the Editor of Sydney Morning Herald 19/7/04
>>>
>>> Don't you just love google? They'll let anyone (even an anonymous
>>> coward) post from their server...

>>
>> Your point, caller?


> Your point, troll ?


Don't employ rhetoric you don't understand, fuckwit.

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Old 19-07.-2004, 08:23 AM   #8
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"Alan Erskine" <alanerskine1@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<hQwKc.6614$K53.189@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> "captainmaniscalco" <captainmaniscalco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8dbea231.0407180619.19d17b0f@posting.google.com...
> > Letter to the Editor of Sydney Morning Herald 19/7/04

>
> Don't you just love google? They'll let anyone (even an anonymous coward)
> post from their server...


WTF ? Has he done something wrong to deserve this mini-spray ? He
just posted a letter from a news paper and offered no remarks to label
him a coward ? Or have you two got a prior thing going and are just
looking for a bit of flaming and trolling ?
 
Old 19-07.-2004, 08:25 AM   #9
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I'm hoping the soccer mom in the H2 is talking about couriers on bikes and not the regular road bikers. Those couriers are crazy, skilled but crazy


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Old 19-07.-2004, 08:51 AM   #10
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Who cares. It's full of generalisations, devoid of any facts, and
appears to be written just to get a reaction. Oh wait a
minute, I just described usenet.

DaveB

 
Old 19-07.-2004, 09:11 AM   #11
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"John L" <johnlawrence.spammerssoff@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Your point, troll ?
>
> John L.
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> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 04:31:07 +1000, "DRS"
> <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> wrote:
>
> >"Alan Erskine" <alanerskine1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >news:hQwKc.6614$K53.189@news-server.bigpond.net.au


I'm not the troll.


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Old 19-07.-2004, 09:12 AM   #12
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"rickster" <rdj1969@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Alan Erskine" <alanerskine1@bigpond.com> wrote in message

news:<hQwKc.6614$K53.189@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> > "captainmaniscalco" <captainmaniscalco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:8dbea231.0407180619.19d17b0f@posting.google.com...
> > > Letter to the Editor of Sydney Morning Herald 19/7/04

> >
> > Don't you just love google? They'll let anyone (even an anonymous

coward)
> > post from their server...

>
> WTF ? Has he done something wrong to deserve this mini-spray ? He
> just posted a letter from a news paper and offered no remarks to label
> him a coward ? Or have you two got a prior thing going and are just
> looking for a bit of flaming and trolling ?


Ahh, I see you're also posting from google...


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Old 19-07.-2004, 09:25 AM   #13
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...that's unfair. I really do wear a helmet........
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Old 19-07.-2004, 09:32 AM   #14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveB
Who cares. It's full of generalisations, devoid of any facts, and appears to be written just to get a reaction. Oh wait a
minute, I just described usenet.

DaveB


You win! Don't know exactly _what DaveB wins, but he's have posted the best post on this rapidly degenerating thread.

BTW - Anyone inspired enough to pen a rebuttal to the Sydney papers?
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You win! Don't know exactly _what DaveB wins, but he's have posted the best post on this rapidly degenerating thread.

BTW - Anyone inspired enough to pen a rebuttal to the Sydney papers?


Already done. This is what I said...

Dear Ed,

Referring to Jenny Ward's letter dated 19 July that groups all cyclists as being selfish, mean-spirited, dangerous and aggressive. It is this kind of letter that engenders an "us versus them" mentality and does nothing to contribute the debate of finding solutions to Sydney's traffic problems. There are some cyclists that break the road rules, there are also pedestrians who step out on to the street without looking. Should we look to register pedestrians with a competency certificate that confirms their ability to walk? There are also some motorists who drive through red lights and speed, especially in places where there are no cameras. This does not mean that all motorists and pedestrians are selfish and mean-spirited as Ms Ward's bizarre logic would imply.

Perhaps Ms Ward can put on a helmet, lights and a bright jacket and have a go at riding to work in peak-hour traffic so she can see how selfish and mean-spirited cycling is for herself, rather than sniping from the comfort of her car.

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