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Sean Eadie "in jeopardy"...

 
 
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Old 16-07.-2004, 08:47 AM   #16
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"DRS" <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> wrote in message
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> "Fakhina Sohl" <spammers_die@soon.com> wrote in message
> news:d5d7568b.0407142118.1fe45879@posting.google.com
> > mfhor <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
> > news:<VhEIc.76018$Bj6.48410@fe33.usenetserver.com>...
> >> ... bottles of what
> >> didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting gear
> >> for simple old vitamins.

> >
> > Can somebody please explain to me why injecting vitamins is okay, but
> > injecting distilled horse piss (or whatever this stuff is) is wrong?

>
> You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy. Endurance athletes expend
> them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through eating so they
> inject them. Lance Armstrong talks about it in one of his books.
>
> Equine Growth Hormone is an illegal and dangerous drug not intended for

use
> by humans.
>


Wow. You must be a Dr? Stop wasting your life lurking in Usenet. Perhaps
you could set up a stall in a public place and people could come and ask
"the great wise one" any question they like.


 
Old 16-07.-2004, 08:56 AM   #17
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"Comfort Gusset" <fart@work.oz> wrote in message news:40f71716@news1
> "DRS" <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> wrote in message
> news:cd6364$fii$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> "Fakhina Sohl" <spammers_die@soon.com> wrote in message
>> news:d5d7568b.0407142118.1fe45879@posting.google.com
>>> mfhor <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
>>> news:<VhEIc.76018$Bj6.48410@fe33.usenetserver.com>...
>>>> ... bottles of what
>>>> didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting
>>>> gear for simple old vitamins.
>>>
>>> Can somebody please explain to me why injecting vitamins is okay,
>>> but injecting distilled horse piss (or whatever this stuff is) is
>>> wrong?

>>
>> You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy. Endurance athletes
>> expend them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through
>> eating so they inject them. Lance Armstrong talks about it in one
>> of his books.
>>
>> Equine Growth Hormone is an illegal and dangerous drug not intended
>> for use by humans.

>
> Wow. You must be a Dr? Stop wasting your life lurking in Usenet.
> Perhaps you could set up a stall in a public place and people could
> come and ask "the great wise one" any question they like.


Have you got a better answer, fucktard? I thought not. You're only here to
piss on everybody else's parade.

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Old 16-07.-2004, 10:29 AM   #18
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Comfort Gusset wrote:
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> "DRS" <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> wrote in message
> news:cd6364$fii$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > "Fakhina Sohl" <spammers_die@soon.com> wrote in message
> > news:d5d7568b.0407142118.1fe45879@posting.google.com
> > > mfhor <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<VhEIc.76018$Bj6.48410@fe33.usenetserver.com>...
> > >> ... bottles of what
> > >> didn't look like Vitamin suppliments, and way too much injecting gear
> > >> for simple old vitamins.
> > >
> > > Can somebody please explain to me why injecting vitamins is okay, but
> > > injecting distilled horse piss (or whatever this stuff is) is wrong?

> >
> > You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy. Endurance athletes expend
> > them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through eating so they
> > inject them. Lance Armstrong talks about it in one of his books.
> >
> > Equine Growth Hormone is an illegal and dangerous drug not intended for

> use
> > by humans.
> >

>
> Wow. You must be a Dr? Stop wasting your life lurking in Usenet. Perhaps
> you could set up a stall in a public place and people could come and ask
> "the great wise one" any question they like.


Ummm, actually DRS had a valid point. The big hint should be "Equine"
Growth Hormone. Now it might be just me but I don't find the thought of
taking drugs aimed at a different species particularly appealing, given
that different species = different genes = different proteins, enzymes =
different response to drugs.

T
 
Old 16-07.-2004, 08:04 PM   #19
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In article <cd6364$fii$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
"DRS" <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> wrote:

> You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy.


Right.

> Endurance athletes expend
> them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through eating so they
> inject them.


Nonsense.

> Lance Armstrong talks about it in one of his books.


I couldn't find the part where he listed his qualifications as a
nutritionist.

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Old 17-07.-2004, 01:50 AM   #20
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"Shane Stanley" <sstanley@myriad-com.NOSPAM.com.au> wrote in message
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> In article <cd6364$fii$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
> "DRS" <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> wrote:
>
>> You need vitamins and minerals to be healthy.

>
> Right.
>
>> Endurance athletes expend
>> them so fast that they cannot replenish them solely through eating
>> so they inject them.

>
> Nonsense.


Is it then? So why do so many endurance athletes, especially cyclists,
inject vitamins?

>> Lance Armstrong talks about it in one of his books.

>
> I couldn't find the part where he listed his qualifications as a
> nutritionist.


He's surrounded by doctors and nutritionists. What are your qualifications?

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Old 17-07.-2004, 08:00 AM   #21
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In article <cd90up$e03$1@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
"DRS" <drs@remove.this.ihug.com.au> wrote:

> So why do so many endurance athletes, especially cyclists,
> inject vitamins?


That's a good question, when you look at the research. I think it's a
combination of things -- partly, it's a bit like shaving legs. Sports
peope are always looking for something to give them an edge, and they're
extroardinary gullible -- witness the rise of of the supplements
industry, making millions by selling stuff that a lot of the time bears
little relationship to what's on the label. And supposedly
health-obsessed people people time and again buy and eat something
purely because someone told them it'll make them go faster. I suspect a
lot of doctors get pestered, shrug their shoulders, and figure it won't
do any harm.

Faith can be an extroadinary thing. Nobel prize winner Linus Pauling's
faith in massive doses of vitamin C has never been supported by any
serious research, and the man was no fool.
>
> He's surrounded by doctors and nutritionists.


Doctors including people like Michel Ferrari. Armstrong is in a position
to surround himself with who he wants to hear, and I presume he does so.
If he asks for something, and they think it can't do any harm, do you
think they'll say no?

Mind you, if you read what Greg LeMond had to say the other day, you
might think there's another theory.

> What are your qualifications?


Probably not a lot better than Lance's, although I have at least studied
the basics in areas like biochemistry.

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Old 18-07.-2004, 10:33 AM   #22
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Shayne Stanley: welcome - a voice of reason!
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Old 19-07.-2004, 09:22 PM   #23
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Eadie wins appeal against drugs case
The Age July 19, 2004 - 9:49PM
<http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/19/1090089098232.html?oneclick=true>

Cyclist Sean Eadie is expected to regain his place in the Australian Olympic team after a judge took less than four hours to dismiss drugs allegations against him.

Judge Jerrold Cripps of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) upheld Eadie's appeal against the withdrawal of his Games nomination by the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC).

Although there are formalities to complete in the next few days, Eadie, the 2002 world sprint champion, seems certain to be on the plane for Athens.
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Old 20-07.-2004, 08:50 AM   #24
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> Eadie wins appeal against drugs case
> The Age July 19, 2004 - 9:49PM
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> Cyclist Sean Eadie is expected to regain his place in the Australian
> Olympic team after a judge took less than four hours to dismiss drugs
> allegations against him.


Cool! Although, after all this, how many of the general public
are going to be thinking "drug cheat" when he wins?

hippy


 
Old 20-07.-2004, 09:23 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by hippy
Cool! Although, after all this, how many of the general public
are going to be thinking "drug cheat" when he wins?

hippy


Has there been any plausible reason for those packages being addressed to him?

Was it the 'ex-girlfriend?
Or perhaps the 'ex-barber' disgruntled at losing shaving business
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Old 20-07.-2004, 12:35 PM   #26
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From The Age today:

Your Say
<http://www.theage.com.au/yoursay1/index.html?from=lhsnav>

With the Olympics less than a month away, the controversy over athletes allegedly using performance enhancing substances is understandably reaching a crescendo, with Australian cyclist Sean Eadie recently cleared of importing banned drugs.

Should athletes just be allowed to use drugs to improve performance?

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Old 20-07.-2004, 11:33 PM   #27
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>> Eadie wins appeal against drugs case
>> The Age July 19, 2004 - 9:49PM
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>>

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2...l?oneclick=true
>>
>> Cyclist Sean Eadie is expected to regain his place in the Australian
>> Olympic team after a judge took less than four hours to dismiss drugs
>> allegations against him.

>
> Cool! Although, after all this, how many of the general public
> are going to be thinking "drug cheat" when he wins?


Apparently Eadie has already lost one sponsor. Mud sticks.

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