What have you always wanted to achieve on a bike?

ritcho

Drs wrote:
> "kingsley" <kingsley@maddogsbreakfast.com.au> wrote in message newsan-
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> [...]
> > (For outa-towners the F3 is the major 6-laner from Sydney north, it's
> > probably a nice surface to ride on, but that's about it in my book.
> > Although you do see a few roadies on it on the weekend)
> From memory there are some monster hills when you head north out of
> Sydney. Or is it a different road that goes up through Kuring-Gai to
> to Gosford?
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You're memory is correct, though it betrays your taste for hills... the
maximum elevation of the "old" road is about 200-250m, which you do at
least three times from Sydney to Gosford. (Plus all of the little ups
and downs). The hills are lengthy, but not particularly steep as the old
road was the main highway... main highways tending to be less steep than
other roads. Judging from my own speeds up the hills, I'd reckon the
grades are around 5%.

I think it's a fun road, but the surface is pretty bad in some sections.
Sunday mornings also see plenty of hoons on motorbikes and WRX-type car
people. Fortunately, you can hear them from a long way off.

Ritch



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hippy

I thought of another one today...

a reverse 360 on the fixie..

Practising for 30min today I could roll back 90deg and managed a few near-
180's but 360 will take some time...

hippy



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Terry Collins

kingsley wrote:
>
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 09:24:51 +1000, ? the Platypus {aka David Formosa}
> wrote:
>
> > - SYD to newscatle
>
> I've always wanted to get a map going of this ride with all sorts of
> back roads etc, so you can avoid the F3 & pacific hwy.
>
> From here (Lake Macquarie) to Newcastle is a bit difficult, but
> to the south is alot more promising.

Unfortunately, only the main road north, unless you cut west and ride
the Sugarloaf range up to the west of cardiff.

>
> For example, I could get from Morisset to Wyong with insignificant traffic
> along Yaramalong valley road (or whatever the road name is), from there
> cut under the pacific hwy at Wyong Creek into farmlands down to Ourimbah.

The bush route is west into the Watagans and follow that main road south
to Buckety, Kulnura, Mangrove Mtn, then south to Mooney Mooney on old
highway, then (train at Brooklyn) or climb to Cowan, Hornsby, etc. or
west at MM to Spencer, Wisemans Ferry (death alley to Dural,) or
riverside to Windsor (The Buckety to Windsor is part of the Bicycle
Australia Pacific Bicycle Trail)

I will think of that road name soon.
From Wyong, west along Yarramlong Valley Road, then up Bumble Hill to
Kulnura, then as above.

> Up Dog Trap road (not on your roadie) to Somersby... anyway that's about
> a fifth of the trip handled. I think if I were more familiar with these
> other areas it might just be possible. Would make a good touring route. I
> don't trust the gov'mnt to come up with a decent one for the proposed
> pacific bike route - these are the same people that mark the F3
> breakdown lane as a bicycle path.

Isn't this the Elias Ducohen coastal route that goes east of lake
macquarie?
>
> (For outa-towners the F3 is the major 6-laner from Sydney north, it's
> probably a nice surface to ride on, but that's about it in my book.
> Although you do see a few roadies on it on the weekend)

I think I've mentioned my current preference of the F3 (very wide
shoulders) to the West of the lake road (no shoulders and a 6" drop off
in places)


bummer, still can not think of that road that runs South in Wyong west
of the F3. will have to look at map.
>
> -kt
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Terry Collins

DRS wrote:
>
> "kingsley" <kingsley@maddogsbreakfast.com.au> wrote in message
> newsan.2004.07.10.23.21.51.88627@maddogsbreakfast.com.au
>
> [...]
>
> > (For outa-towners the F3 is the major 6-laner from Sydney north, it's
> > probably a nice surface to ride on, but that's about it in my book.
> > Although you do see a few roadies on it on the weekend)
>
> From memory there are some monster hills when you head north out of Sydney.
> Or is it a different road that goes up through Kuring-Gai to to Gosford?

There is really only one hill with a few bumps.
It is downhill from Cowan to Mooney Mooney on the Hawkwsbury River,,
then uphill to Peats Ridge.

If you are going north, you can then follow a ridgeline to Bucketty and
then take forset roads through Watagans (undulating) or the more relaxed
route through Laguna and Wollombi to Cessnock then Maitland and north
coast or Broke to Singleton and New England

If you go east from Peats Ridge, you then drop to Mooney Mooney Creek
and climb back up to Somersby, where you can go north again or east to
Kariong, then down to Gosford. I like the gravel route slightly east of
the main route. You get spat out at the West Gosford lights.

Terry Collins

Marty Wallace wrote:

> Get yourself a good GPS and some software and publish your maps on the net.
> It's not hard and it's actually fun.
> GarTrip is good software. I use a Garmin GPS 72 (It's waterproof and it
> floats.) You cna download your routes and superimpose them onto scanned
> maps.

How many way points does it hold?
This has been the real limitation to date.

Marty Wallace

"Terry Collins" <terryc@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:40F10205.CF7943B1@woa.com.au...
> Marty Wallace wrote:
>
> > Get yourself a good GPS and some software and publish your maps on the
net.
> > It's not hard and it's actually fun.
> > GarTrip is good software. I use a Garmin GPS 72 (It's waterproof and it
> > floats.) You cna download your routes and superimpose them onto scanned
> > maps.
>
> How many way points does it hold?
> This has been the real limitation to date.

Mine has 500 points, but there are a lot of other models that might suit you
better.
I chose the GPS72 because it floats and is water-proof, which is handy for
canoeing.

http://www.garmin.com/products/gps72/index.jsp

Marty

? the Platypus {aka David Formosa}

"Marty Wallace" <mart@geo.net.au> writes:

[...]

> Get yourself a good GPS and some software and publish your maps on
> the net.

Does anyone have a good idea how to mount these on a bike, esp ones
that don't have a dedecated GPS mount kit for them?

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? the Platypus {aka David Formosa}

Terry Collins <terryc@woa.com.au> writes:

[...]

> west at MM to Spencer, Wisemans Ferry (death alley to Dural,)

If I recall correctly Wisemans's Ferry was deep in a vally with a very steap
twisty road down to it. I expect it would be hell to ride on a bike.


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"? the Platypus {aka David Formosa}" <dformosa@zeta.org.au> wrote in
message news:m3brij35sp.fsf@dformosa.zeta.org.au
> Terry Collins <terryc@woa.com.au> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>> west at MM to Spencer, Wisemans Ferry (death alley to Dural,)
>
> If I recall correctly Wisemans's Ferry was deep in a vally with a
> very steap twisty road down to it. I expect it would be hell to ride
> on a bike.

I went through there once on a motorbike on my way up to Singleton. The
road north is 99% gravel all the way and it had been recently graded so I
crawled the entire journey at about 20kph. Hell is a barely adequate
description.

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Tom Nicholson

? the Platypus {aka David Formosa} <dformosa@zeta.org.au> wrote in message news:<m3fz7v35wc.fsf@dformosa.zeta.org.au>...
>
> Does anyone have a good idea how to mount these on a bike, esp ones
> that don't have a dedecated GPS mount kit for them?

Gaffa tape to the rear rack works nicely. Put it in a platic bag
first if your worried about the rain. You can also gaffa to the
handlebars.

Not so sexy but certainly does the trick!

Tom

Terry Collins

? the Platypus {aka David Formosa} wrote:
>
> Terry Collins <terryc@woa.com.au> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > west at MM to Spencer, Wisemans Ferry (death alley to Dural,)
>
> If I recall correctly Wisemans's Ferry was deep in a vally with a very steap
> twisty road down to it. I expect it would be hell to ride on a bike.

Well yes.

I've bicycled there a few times from Hornsby, down the gorge (steep
down, nice grade out) to wards Dural, then north to Wiseman's Ferry. The
drop into Wiseman's Ferry is steep. I don't think I would want to come
up it.

Going north, you can take the Webb's Creek Ferry (north side -) to go up
the west side of the McDonald River (?) to St Albans )(sneaky feeling
all names are wrong), or the main ferry (east side), to go up the east
side to St ALbans, or up the Convict Road to Ten Mile Hollow, then
Buckety, or followed the sealed road to Spencer, etc.

Marty Wallace

"? the Platypus {aka David Formosa}" <dformosa@zeta.org.au> wrote in message
news:m3fz7v35wc.fsf@dformosa.zeta.org.au...
> "Marty Wallace" <mart@geo.net.au> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > Get yourself a good GPS and some software and publish your maps on
> > the net.
>
> Does anyone have a good idea how to mount these on a bike, esp ones
> that don't have a dedecated GPS mount kit for them?
>
> --
> Please excuse my spelling as I suffer from agraphia. See
> http://dformosa.zeta.org.au/~dformosa/Spelling.html to find out more.
> Free the Memes.

I carry mine in the rear pocket of my cycling jersey. Even when mountain
bike riding you only have to get it out occasionally when you come to a
corner or think you are lost.

Marty