RR/JRA

KLydesdale

"R.White" <bicycle@charter.net> wrote in message
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> "KLydesdale" <klydesdale001@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:4Xtec.203$0wT.116@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > >
> > > "JD" <dij@usafcct.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ebf270c9.0404112340.53633045@posting.google.com...
> > > > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>....
> > > > > when I hear a loud
> > > > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I
notice
> > the
> > > > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
> > > > >
> > > > > I look down and I see this!
> > > > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps
or
> > > > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old
to
> > keep
> > in
> > > > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden
it
> > about 1
> > > > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the
car,
> > and a
> > > > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it
could
> > have
> > > > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
> > > >
> > > > From: TBF (jr.miller@rogers.com)
> > > > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
> > > > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > > > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
> > > > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
> > > > manufacters."
> > > >
> > > > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that
swingarm
> > > > tells a different story.
> > > >
> > > > From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
> > > > Subject: Re: What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
> > > > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > > > Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12 PST
> > > > "The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up properly. I've been
> > > > riding mine for months now and it's tight and fast..."
> > >
> > >
> > > Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
> > > everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing
recommendations
> > about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form
a
> > valid opinion.
>
> Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
> JD wrote?
>


Those comments JD made about his Y bike pale in comparison to shit that TBF
posted about his Jamis.

KLydesdale

"TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:5ADec.131095$Bk31.50646@twister01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com.. .
>
> > How do those crow feathers taste, man? Get a real bike or something,
> dude.
> >
> > JD
>
> They taste like crow fool. At least I'm man enough to admit it. Should I
get
> a bike like yours, would that be "real"?
>
>

How about you just stop "crowing" about the stuff you own simply because you
own it?

KLydesdale

"TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "KLydesdale" <klydesdale001@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:aJqdnd4LALfVCOfdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> >
> > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:4Xtec.203$0wT.116@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > >
> > > "JD" <dij@usafcct.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ebf270c9.0404112340.53633045@posting.google.com...
> > > > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>....
> > > > > when I hear a loud
> > > > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I
> notice
> > > the
> > > > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
> > > > >
> > > > > I look down and I see this!
> > > > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps
> or
> > > > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old
to
> > keep
> > > in
> > > > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden
it
> > > about 1
> > > > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the
> car,
> > > and a
> > > > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it
> could
> > > have
> > > > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
> > > >
> > > > From: TBF (jr.miller@rogers.com)
> > > > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
> > > > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > > > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
> > > > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
> > > > manufacters."
> > > >
> > > > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that
swingarm
> > > > tells a different story.
> > > >
> >
> > And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing
recommendations
> > about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form
a
> > valid opinion.
> >
> > JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.
> >
> >
>
> Well I found a pretty interesting thread about JD and his Trek, sounds
> remarkably similar. Pot calling the kettle black??


The key difference here, which you seem to be missing, is that JD didn't
really trumpet the virtues of his Y-bike before it broke like you did with
your Jamis.

>
> I like the Jamis frames, one bad production is not gonna change that.
>
>

You may like Jamis frames but that doesn't change the fact that they aren't
as "rock solid" as you claim them to be. You make a comment about Jamis
not having the costs of other bikes. Gee, I wonder where they cut costs in
that rear swingarm?

JD

"KLydesdale" <klydesdale001@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<-YCdncft97CiVebdRVn-vw@comcast.com>...
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> >
> > "KLydesdale" <klydesdale001@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:aJqdnd4LALfVCOfdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> > >
> > > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4Xtec.203$0wT.116@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> > > >
> > > > "JD" <dij@usafcct.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ebf270c9.0404112340.53633045@posting.google.com...
> > > > > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>....
> > > > > > when I hear a loud
> > > > > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I
> notice
> the
> > > > > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I look down and I see this!
> > > > > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps
> or
> > > > > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old
> to
> keep
> in
> > > > > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden
> it
> about 1
> > > > > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the
> car,
> and a
> > > > > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it
> could
> have
> > > > > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
> > > > >
> > > > > From: TBF (jr.miller@rogers.com)
> > > > > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
> > > > > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > > > > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
> > > > > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
> > > > > manufacters."
> > > > >
> > > > > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that
> swingarm
> > > > > tells a different story.
> > > > >
> > >
> > > And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing
> recommendations
> > > about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form
> a
> > > valid opinion.
> > >
> > > JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Well I found a pretty interesting thread about JD and his Trek, sounds
> > remarkably similar. Pot calling the kettle black??
>
>
> The key difference here, which you seem to be missing, is that JD didn't
> really trumpet the virtues of his Y-bike before it broke like you did with
> your Jamis.
>
> >
> > I like the Jamis frames, one bad production is not gonna change that.
> >
> >
>
> You may like Jamis frames but that doesn't change the fact that they aren't
> as "rock solid" as you claim them to be. You make a comment about Jamis
> not having the costs of other bikes. Gee, I wonder where they cut costs in
> that rear swingarm?

C'mon Keith, your argument makes too much sense. Our pal here is like
one of those dogs that chases cars. Senseless and destined to be
squished like the mutt that he is. The next time his swinger fails,
he may not be so fortunate as to avoid injury.

JD

JD

bicycle@charter.net (R.White) wrote in message news:<27bc6c79.0404121332.1f63069d@posting.google.com>...
> dij@usafcct.com (JD) wrote in message news:<ebf270c9.0404121000.4b5354c5@posting.google.com>...
> > little ricky white wrote:
> > > KL wrote:
> > > Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
> > > JD wrote?
>
> > > JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.
>
> > > So did I.
> >
> > You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
> > my "glowing recommendations" were posted.
>
> Hey, no problem.
>
> This first one is glowing pretty bright!
>
> "Even though mine broke (and has since been
> replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
> damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
> breaks again."
>
> "when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had my Y
> bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-December"
>
>
> A poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820 to a
> Trek Y-Bike and JD replied:
>
> "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled Trek 850 to
> my Y11, I surely did."
>
> In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:
>
> "Yeah?, so what's the spec?
> JD interested in a Y11"
>
> Talking about his Trek Y bike, JD wrote:
>
> "I like mine and still think that for an older design,
> it's a great bike."
>
> It's time to backpedal or eat it too.

Without message headers to show the date those were posted, this post
is even more worthless than your standard leg humping, psychoboy.

JD

R.White

dij@usafcct.com (JD) wrote in message news:<ebf270c9.0404130839.739b4d10@posting.google.com>...
> bicycle@charter.net (R.White) wrote in message news:<27bc6c79.0404121332.1f63069d@posting.google.com>...
> > dij@usafcct.com (JD) wrote in message news:<ebf270c9.0404121000.4b5354c5@posting.google.com>...
> > > little ricky white wrote:
> > > > KL wrote:
> > > > Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
> > > > JD wrote?
>
> > > > JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.
>
> > > > So did I.
> > >
> > > You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
> > > my "glowing recommendations" were posted.
> >
> > Hey, no problem.
> >
> > This first one is glowing pretty bright!
> >
> > "Even though mine broke (and has since been
> > replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
> > damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
> > breaks again."
> >
> > "when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had my Y
> > bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-December"
> >
> >
> > A poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820 to a
> > Trek Y-Bike and JD replied:
> >
> > "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled Trek 850 to
> > my Y11, I surely did."
> >
> > In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:
> >
> > "Yeah?, so what's the spec?
> > JD interested in a Y11"
> >
> > Talking about his Trek Y bike, JD wrote:
> >
> > "I like mine and still think that for an older design,
> > it's a great bike."
> >
> > It's time to backpedal or eat it too.
>
> Without message headers to show the date those were posted, this post
> is even more worthless than your standard leg humping, psychoboy.
>
> JD

So you are denying you wrote these?

R.White

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> > dij@usafcct.com (JD) wrote in message news:<ebf270c9.0404121000.4b5354c5@posting.google.com>...
> > > little ricky white wrote:
> > > > KL wrote:
> > > > Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
> > > > JD wrote?

> >
> > It's time to backpedal or eat it too.
>
> Without message headers to show the date those were posted, this post
> is even more worthless than your standard leg humping, psychoboy.

More Trek recommendations from JD.

From: LoDij@webtv.net (J D)
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Stupid is correct in his explanation in the difference between
chromoly
and aluminum. The Moab 2 is a most excellent mid-range bike and is
priced very competetively. The bike shop where I test rode it is
willing to let me have one for $650 because they know that I ride all
of
the time and their product will be seen being used to the utmost.
It's
kind of like paying for advertising. I still may go for it just to
have
another back-up bike. At that price I'd be pretty foolish not to.

JD

Slash

On 13 Apr 2004 18:54:12 -0700, bicycle@charter.net (R.White)
scribbled:
>More Trek recommendations from JD.

[snip]

>>Stupid is correct in his explanation in the difference between
>>chromoly
>>and aluminum. The Moab 2 is a most excellent mid-range bike and is

So would that then be ----^ a Schwinn Trek?

>>priced very competetively. The bike shop where I test rode it is
>>willing to let me have one for $650 because they know that I ride all
>>of
>>the time and their product will be seen being used to the utmost.
>>It's
>>kind of like paying for advertising. I still may go for it just to
>>have
>>another back-up bike. At that price I'd be pretty foolish not to.
>>
>>JD

-Slash
--
"Ebert Victorious"
-The Onion

R.White

Slash <slash3@geocities.com> wrote in message news:<h4jp709frgmfnto8khm3eko9nbatgn8i2k@4ax.com>...
> On 13 Apr 2004 18:54:12 -0700, bicycle@charter.net (R.White)
> scribbled:
> >More Trek recommendations from JD.
>
> [snip]
>
> >>Stupid is correct in his explanation in the difference between
> >>chromoly
> >>and aluminum. The Moab 2 is a most excellent mid-range bike and is
>
> So would that then be ----^ a Schwinn Trek?

Umm...it was late when I posted...err...Ok, I was wrong. There, happy?
I've got the balls to admit I was wrong unlike others.





>
> >>priced very competetively. The bike shop where I test rode it is
> >>willing to let me have one for $650 because they know that I ride all
> >>of
> >>the time and their product will be seen being used to the utmost.
> >>It's
> >>kind of like paying for advertising. I still may go for it just to
> >>have
> >>another back-up bike. At that price I'd be pretty foolish not to.
> >>
> >>JD
>
> -Slash

R.White

dij@usafcct.com (JD) wrote in message news:<ebf270c9.0404130839.739b4d10@posting.google.com>...
> bicycle@charter.net (R.White) wrote in message news:<27bc6c79.0404121332.1f63069d@posting.google.com>...
> > dij@usafcct.com (JD) wrote in message news:<ebf270c9.0404121000.4b5354c5@posting.google.com>...
> > > little ricky white wrote:
> > > > KL wrote:
> > > > Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
> > > > JD wrote?
>
> > > > JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.
>
> > > > So did I.
> > >
> > > You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
> > > my "glowing recommendations" were posted.
> >
> > Hey, no problem.
> >
> > This first one is glowing pretty bright!
> >
> > "Even though mine broke (and has since been
> > replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
> > damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
> > breaks again."
> >
> > "when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had my Y
> > bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-December"
> >
> >
> > A poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820 to a
> > Trek Y-Bike and JD replied:
> >
> > "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled Trek 850 to
> > my Y11, I surely did."
> >
> > In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:
> >
> > "Yeah?, so what's the spec?
> > JD interested in a Y11"
> >
> > Talking about his Trek Y bike, JD wrote:
> >
> > "I like mine and still think that for an older design,
> > it's a great bike."
> >
> > It's time to backpedal or eat it too.
>
> Without message headers to show the date those were posted, this post
> is even more worthless than your standard leg humping, psychoboy.
>


Here are your headers.

From: JD <dijcct@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Trek Y Bike Info?
Date: 2000/03/19
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Well put Gazzer. Even though mine broke (and has since been
replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
breaks again.

JD