RR/JRA

mojo deluxe

"TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> <crazy6r54@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:3225-40786E9A-476@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net...
> > Did you ever lube that swingarm? I have 3 FS
> > bikes,Proflex 856, Proflex / K2 2000,and a K2 Attack 3.0. I
> > keep them well greased & lubed and never had any problems. They all
> > have been upgraded and all work done by myself.
> >
> > I MTB 2004
> >
> >
> Sealed bearings man, no lube needed

Sealed bearings man, no rocks or sticks contaminate your bearing.

G.T.

"Benjamin Weiner" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message
news:4078daad$1@darkstar...
> p e t e f a g e r l i n <pete1NOSPAM@petefagerlin.removethis.com> wrote:
> > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > <crazy6r54@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> > > > Did you ever lube that swingarm? I have 3 FS
> > > Sealed bearings man, no lube needed
>
> > ROTFLMAO!
>
> I don't believe in sealed bearings either. But how would lubing the
> bearings keep the swingarm from cracking in the middle? Could there
> possibly be enough stiction to stress the swingarm?
>

I really really really doubt it.

Greg

Benjamin Weiner

p e t e f a g e r l i n <pete1NOSPAM@petefagerlin.removethis.com> wrote:
> "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > <crazy6r54@webtv.net> wrote in message

> > > Did you ever lube that swingarm? I have 3 FS
> > Sealed bearings man, no lube needed

> ROTFLMAO!

I don't believe in sealed bearings either. But how would lubing the
bearings keep the swingarm from cracking in the middle? Could there
possibly be enough stiction to stress the swingarm?

JD

"TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>....
> when I hear a loud
> crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice the
> rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
>
> I look down and I see this!
> http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
>
> My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
> downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to keep in
> XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it about 1
> 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car, and a
> half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could have
> been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
>
> Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.

From: TBF (jr.miller@rogers.com)
Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
"Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
manufacters."

Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
tells a different story.

From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
Subject: Re: What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12 PST
"The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up properly. I've been
riding mine for months now and it's tight and fast..."

...and broken.

From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
Subject: RR: Riding in the rain
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
Date: 2003-04-18 19:56:17 PST
"The linkages on the Jamis are starting to loosen up finally, so the
ride is smooth but without any "bobbing" for a change."

Looks like the linkages are not the issue, but shoddy
materials/workmanship. Funny how you had a spare swingarm laying
around for your "rock solid" bike.

From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
Subject: Re: Gary Fisher Sugar 4 or Trek Fuel 80?
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
Date: 2003-04-13 17:41:06 PST
"GF between the two, but I would get a Jamis dakar for $750 and spend
the rest of the cash on gear"

Great advice for someone who wants a broken bike.

From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
Subject: Re: Custom Jamis Dakar or Diamondback from LBS?
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
Date: 2003-04-01 17:43:22 PST
"Jamis is the better deal and the 15" may fit you but you should try
one on
for size first. I have the Dakar Comp and it rocks!"

Yeah, it "rocks" alright, rocks to pieces.

From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
Subject: Re: Entry level FS XC bike recommendation?
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
Date: 2003-03-27 14:21:38 PST
"Jamis Dakar"

Blind brand loyalty is a funny thing.

From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
Subject: Re: Ellsworth Truth versus Santa Cruz Blur
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
Date: 2003-03-23 07:23:23 PST
"Jamis Dakar Comp XC or Expert"

Hmmm, someone asks about smellsworthless and santa crud and you go one
lower. How entertaining.

From: TBF (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
Subject: Re: BR: Built up my Jamis Dakar Comp Frame
Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
Date: 2003-01-28 04:34:01 PST
"I happen to have ridden a number of other Jamis bikes over the years,
the Comp is just a new experience, and i can tell you, they are far
from crappy, otherwise I wouldn't have wasted my cash on it."

So far from crappy that they break often enough to keep a spare
swingarm around?

You're a riot.

JD

Benjamin Weiner

G.T. <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Benjamin Weiner" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote in message

> > I don't believe in sealed bearings either. But how would lubing the
> > bearings keep the swingarm from cracking in the middle? Could there
> > possibly be enough stiction to stress the swingarm?
> >

> I really really really doubt it.

I didn't think so either - seems like the pivot would stop functioning
long before that became an issue (e.g. one bearing fully seized). But
I've never owned an FS so wanted to avoid the syndrome of pontificating
without experience. On the other hand, this is Usenet - what could I
have been thinking?

TBF

"JD" <dij@usafcct.com> wrote in message
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> "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>....
> > when I hear a loud
> > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice
the
> > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
> >
> > I look down and I see this!
> > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> >
> > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
> > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to keep
in
> > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it
about 1
> > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car,
and a
> > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could
have
> > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
> >
> > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
>
> From: TBF (jr.miller@rogers.com)
> Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
> Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
> "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
> manufacters."
>
> Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
> tells a different story.
>
> From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
> Subject: Re: What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
> Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12 PST
> "The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up properly. I've been
> riding mine for months now and it's tight and fast..."


Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.

KLydesdale

"Slacker" <slacker7@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Benjamin Weiner wrote:
> > TBF <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I look down and I see this!
> >>http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> >
> >
> > It was probably already cracked part way through and
> > something just finished it off. If you look at the exposed
> > surfaces, there might be a dark part and a light part -
> > the dark part is what was already cracked (dark from
> > oxidation and dirt) and light is the fresh crack. Like
> > in the pictures of broken cranks at
> > http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-001.html
> >
> > Here's a particularly good shot of the light/dark feature:
> > http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-008.html
> >
> >
> Dang, that's nuts! (both (TBF's and the crank)
>
> Didn't know Campy stuff was breakable.


Why would you think that stuff was unbreakable? They don't do anything
really special in making their cranks.

Did you happen to catch this one? It looks sorta familiar.

http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-011.html

KLydesdale

"TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "JD" <dij@usafcct.com> wrote in message
> news:ebf270c9.0404112340.53633045@posting.google.com...
> > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>....
> > > when I hear a loud
> > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice
> the
> > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
> > >
> > > I look down and I see this!
> > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> > >
> > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
> > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to
keep
> in
> > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it
> about 1
> > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car,
> and a
> > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could
> have
> > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
> > >
> > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
> >
> > From: TBF (jr.miller@rogers.com)
> > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
> > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
> > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
> > manufacters."
> >
> > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
> > tells a different story.
> >
> > From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
> > Subject: Re: What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
> > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12 PST
> > "The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up properly. I've been
> > riding mine for months now and it's tight and fast..."
>
>
> Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
> everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.
>
>

And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing recommendations
about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form a
valid opinion.

JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

R.White

"KLydesdale" <klydesdale001@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<aJqdnd4LALfVCOfdRVn-sw@comcast.com>...
> "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:4Xtec.203$0wT.116@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> >
> > "JD" <dij@usafcct.com> wrote in message
> > news:ebf270c9.0404112340.53633045@posting.google.com...
> > > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>....
> > > > when I hear a loud
> > > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice
> the
> > > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
> > > >
> > > > I look down and I see this!
> > > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> > > >
> > > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
> > > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to
> keep
> in
> > > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it
> about 1
> > > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car,
> and a
> > > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could
> have
> > > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
> > >
> > > From: TBF (jr.miller@rogers.com)
> > > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
> > > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
> > > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
> > > manufacters."
> > >
> > > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
> > > tells a different story.
> > >
> > > From: ..::TBF::.. (theblackfoxx@rogers.com)
> > > Subject: Re: What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
> > > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > > Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12 PST
> > > "The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up properly. I've been
> > > riding mine for months now and it's tight and fast..."
> >
> >
> > Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
> > everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.
> >
> >
>
> And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing recommendations
> about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form a
> valid opinion.

Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
JD wrote?

> JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

So did I.

JD

little ricky white wrote:
> KL wrote:
> Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
> JD wrote?

> JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

> So did I.

You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
my "glowing recommendations" were posted.

JD

JD

"TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<4Xtec.203$0wT.116@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
> "JD" <dij@usafcct.com> wrote in message
> news:ebf270c9.0404112340.53633045@posting.google.com...
> > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>....
> > > when I hear a loud
> > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice
> the
> > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
> > >
> > > I look down and I see this!
> > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> > >
> > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
> > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to keep
> in
> > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it
> about 1
> > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car,
> and a
> > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could
> have
> > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
> > >
> > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
> >
> > From: TBF (jr.miller@rogers.com)
> > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
> > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
> > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
> > manufacters."
> >
> > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
> > tells a different story.

> Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
> everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.

How do those crow feathers taste, man? Get a real bike or something, dude.

JD

TBF

"KLydesdale" <klydesdale001@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:4Xtec.203$0wT.116@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> >
> > "JD" <dij@usafcct.com> wrote in message
> > news:ebf270c9.0404112340.53633045@posting.google.com...
> > > "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>....
> > > > when I hear a loud
> > > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I
notice
> > the
> > > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
> > > >
> > > > I look down and I see this!
> > > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> > > >
> > > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps
or
> > > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to
> keep
> > in
> > > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it
> > about 1
> > > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the
car,
> > and a
> > > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it
could
> > have
> > > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
> > >
> > > From: TBF (jr.miller@rogers.com)
> > > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
> > > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
> > > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
> > > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
> > > manufacters."
> > >
> > > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
> > > tells a different story.
> > >
>
> And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing recommendations
> about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form a
> valid opinion.
>
> JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.
>
>

Well I found a pretty interesting thread about JD and his Trek, sounds
remarkably similar. Pot calling the kettle black??

I like the Jamis frames, one bad production is not gonna change that.

TBF

> How do those crow feathers taste, man? Get a real bike or something,
dude.
>
> JD

They taste like crow fool. At least I'm man enough to admit it. Should I get
a bike like yours, would that be "real"?

R.White

dij@usafcct.com (JD) wrote in message news:<ebf270c9.0404121000.4b5354c5@posting.google.com>...
> little ricky white wrote:
> > KL wrote:
> > Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
> > JD wrote?
>
> > JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.
>
> > So did I.
>
> You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
> my "glowing recommendations" were posted.

Hey, no problem.

This first one is glowing pretty bright!

"Even though mine broke (and has since been
replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
breaks again."

"when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had my Y
bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-December"


A poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820 to a
Trek Y-Bike and JD replied:

"You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled Trek 850 to
my Y11, I surely did."

In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:

"Yeah?, so what's the spec?
JD interested in a Y11"

Talking about his Trek Y bike, JD wrote:

"I like mine and still think that for an older design,
it's a great bike."

It's time to backpedal or eat it too.