RR/JRA

TBF

First ride of the season for us blokes in Southern Ontario. It's been
pissing rain and blowing snow for so long now we were wondering when Spring
would finally arrive. Today it was 9 degrees and I planned to do an easy
ride to see about fitness and trail changes.

Got the bike, girl and car ready and headed off to the DVP trail. Did the
upper stretch with no problems. Lot's of fallen trees and new single track
that people made as a detour around them. Everything was going fine, well
except for a major lack of fitness on my part, and I suspect a few extra
pounds. Too much surf and turf, sushi, and french bread all Winter for sure.

I get to the end of the upper trail and meet my girl in the parking lot at
the bottom. Ya know...the usual how have you been, anything new, kiss there,
feel there. 20 minutes later off to do the lower loop. We start out slow
(she's not as confident on the lower part) and get about halfway. She's in
front of me dabbing and I'm checking out her butt...(much better than I
remember it last season, god I'm a lucky bastards!) when I hear a loud
crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice the
rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.

I look down and I see this!
http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm

My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to keep in
XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it about 1
1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car, and a
half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could have
been like if that had happend on a fast descent.

Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm. Just need a crank puller and I'm in
business for a Saturday of singletrack bliss on the Oak Ridges Morain.
Wonder if Jamis is gonna replace the part ??!! Well this will be a good test
of the warranty/customer service of the company.

BB

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:48:04 GMT, TBF wrote:
> upper stretch with no problems. Lot's of fallen trees and new single track
> that people made as a detour around them. Everything was going fine, well
> except for a major lack of fitness on my part, and I suspect a few extra
> pounds. Too much surf and turf, sushi, and french bread all Winter for sure.

That spring windfall is always an annoyance. A lot of stopping. Hope your
crews are as good about cleaning them out as they are where I live.

> I look down and I see this!
> http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm

Holy crap! I've never had an FS so I'm not sure, but that looks like
something that should almost never happen. Good thing it happened on an
easy section!

> My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
> downhill, strictly XC.

What, you thought people would blame YOU for it? ;-)

> Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.

How do you happen to have a swingarm of all things lying around? :-)

> Wonder if Jamis is gonna replace the part ??!! Well this will be a good test
> of the warranty/customer service of the company.

Good luck!

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To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

Stephen Baker

TBF writes:

> I look down and I see this!
> http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm

Yikes!

but.....

> Too much surf and turf, sushi, and french bread all Winter for sure.

Any connection? Hmmmmm.....

;-)

Steve

TBF

> How do you happen to have a swingarm of all things lying around? :-)

I'm just one of those dudes man...I think of the worst possible scenario and
plan for it. When I bought the frame, I ordered a spare swingarm...just in
case shit happens. Was beginning to think I had wasted my money, but now
that I compare the new part with the old, I can see that the section that
broke was much thinner on the old part.

BB

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:31:53 GMT, TBF wrote:

> When I bought the frame, I ordered a spare swingarm...just in
> case shit happens.

Is it common for swingarms to break?

BTW, checked out the website. Meaningless comments:
- Much humbler than I recall. ;-) Humility is a virtue.
- Great pic at the top, but what are you dropping off of? Almost
looks like you just "happen" to be perched on the front wheel!
- Looks like your main interest is why that damned swingarm broke!
(clicking on "Interests" links)
- Nice page about the music. No mention of Billie Holliday? The
pic on the top-left is awful fuzzy - camera next to the amp? :-)

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To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

Chris

"TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I look down and I see this!
> http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
>
> My swingarm is destroyed.

Hahahaha...how many people told you to stay away from Jamis when you were
pimping the hell out of that frame?

Cambria is having a sale on Titus frames, and you can get a Turner Burner
from Supergo for under a grand. Tell that kid to forget videogames for a
while - Daddy needs a new frame.

At least you didn't hurt yourself. Don't tell Jamis that, though...tell
them the failure caused you to wreck hard, and you ended up smacking your
head against a rock and bruising your shoulder really bad. That way,
they'll send you whatever their "team" frame is, which you can Ebay for a
boatload, then apply said windfall to NRB (new real bike).

Chris

TBF

"BB" <bbauerAtitude@freeshell.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:31:53 GMT, TBF wrote:
>
> > When I bought the frame, I ordered a spare swingarm...just in
> > case shit happens.
>
> Is it common for swingarms to break?

Well a buddy told me a few minutes ago that the Dakar Comps had a swingarm
recall early in 2002. The part was snapping right where mine did whenever
you were breaking hard. I usually don't ram on the brakes but today I recall
now that my girl had to dab on one spot and I was caught off-guard and yank
on the rear brake like a hack.

Then again, I've riddent he fram two seasons almost and I'm sure I've had to
reach for a handful before now.

Oh well, I had a RM7 b4 and the swingarm gave me some issues, after that I
always bought an extra swingarm so I don't miss weeks of riding waiting for
a replacement part.

TBF

"Chris" <chrismccreary@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> >
> >
> > I look down and I see this!
> > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
> >
> > My swingarm is destroyed.
>
> Hahahaha...how many people told you to stay away from Jamis when you were
> pimping the hell out of that frame?
>
c'mon be nice!

The frame is awesome man, no complaints until now. But your damn right, I'm
definitely getting a replacement at least without paying for it.

I figure the frame has about 1 season left on it anyway, then I'm buying a
Blur (ya ya...go ahead and rant on that one fellas. I rode one today and
it's da shit!)

Slacker

Benjamin Weiner wrote:
> TBF <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I look down and I see this!
>>http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
>
>
> It was probably already cracked part way through and
> something just finished it off. If you look at the exposed
> surfaces, there might be a dark part and a light part -
> the dark part is what was already cracked (dark from
> oxidation and dirt) and light is the fresh crack. Like
> in the pictures of broken cranks at
> http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-001.html
>
> Here's a particularly good shot of the light/dark feature:
> http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-008.html
>
>
Dang, that's nuts! (both (TBF's and the crank)

Didn't know Campy stuff was breakable.
--
Slacker

Benjamin Weiner

TBF <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote:

> I look down and I see this!
> http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm

It was probably already cracked part way through and
something just finished it off. If you look at the exposed
surfaces, there might be a dark part and a light part -
the dark part is what was already cracked (dark from
oxidation and dirt) and light is the fresh crack. Like
in the pictures of broken cranks at
http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-001.html

Here's a particularly good shot of the light/dark feature:
http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-008.html

Paladin

"TBF" <jr.miller@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<U5Ddc.12264$PV5.7072@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...
> First ride of the season for us blokes in Southern Ontario. It's been
> pissing rain and blowing snow for so long now we were wondering when Spring
> would finally arrive. Today it was 9 degrees and I planned to do an easy
> ride to see about fitness and trail changes.

Been a long winter on the whole left side of the continent, eh what?
>
> Got the bike, girl and car ready and headed off to the DVP trail. Did the
> upper stretch with no problems. Lot's of fallen trees and new single track
> that people made as a detour around them. Everything was going fine, well
> except for a major lack of fitness on my part, and I suspect a few extra
> pounds. Too much surf and turf, sushi, and french bread all Winter for sure.

Man, I hear you. My rides have hurt. Too much time on the couch, and
never even cracked out the trainer.
>
> I get to the end of the upper trail and meet my girl in the parking lot at
> the bottom. Ya know...the usual how have you been, anything new, kiss there,
> feel there. 20 minutes later off to do the lower loop. We start out slow
> (she's not as confident on the lower part) and get about halfway. She's in
> front of me dabbing and I'm checking out her butt...(much better than I
> remember it last season, god I'm a lucky bastards!) when I hear a loud
> crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice the
> rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
>
> I look down and I see this!
> http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm

Wow! Now that's amazing. And you "just happened to have another?"
That's almost equally amazing.

paladin

John Morgan

TBF wrote:

> First ride of the season for us blokes in Southern Ontario. It's been
> pissing rain and blowing snow for so long now we were wondering when
> Spring would finally arrive. Today it was 9 degrees and I planned to do an
> easy ride to see about fitness and trail changes.

The "season" is just about to finish up for us hosers in Central Arizona.
We were hitting the mid to high 90's two weeks ago and we were wondering
why Spring was ending so soon. It has cooled off this week a bit, but soon
the full-blown heat will arrive.

Enjoy.

John Morgan

crazy6r54@webtv.net

Did you ever lube that swingarm? I have 3 FS
bikes,Proflex 856, Proflex / K2 2000,and a K2 Attack 3.0. I
keep them well greased & lubed and never had any problems. They all
have been upgraded and all work done by myself.

I MTB 2004

TBF

<crazy6r54@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Did you ever lube that swingarm? I have 3 FS
> bikes,Proflex 856, Proflex / K2 2000,and a K2 Attack 3.0. I
> keep them well greased & lubed and never had any problems. They all
> have been upgraded and all work done by myself.
>
> I MTB 2004
>
>
Sealed bearings man, no lube needed