Old-Timers Question. . .

J'm Sm'th

So, Frankenbike [actually 'Supercalifragilistica'] is operational,
albeit not yet fully so. The last niggling problem centers around
pressing an old Shitmano 6-speed thumbie into use for the 8-speed drive
train [yes, Virginia, I know the answer, "It Doesn't Work"].

Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets here, is there
any way I can disable the ratchet in the old 6-speed shifter, reducing
it to 'friction' mode?

[For those interested, '99 Fisher supercaliber frame, new Tange rigid
fork, new seatpost, new BB, new headset, scrounged everything else. The
key find was the Avid brakes and levers a buddy of mine was getting rid
of since he upgraded to disc brakes. It is pornographic to ride, to say
the least.]

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Oh yeah,

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miles todd

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And what? You can't even see the shifters in that photo.

Don't the Deore 6-speed levers have a friction setting? I'm not good on
this subject- I always ran Suntour.

Miles

Chris

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Be careful, man...MY FrankenFisherHardtail was stolen about 6 months ago,
despite being ugly, cheap, and barely functional. Guess thieves don't know
the difference.

http://www.pbase.com/image/19501217

Chris

bomba

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 03:06:08 +0000, J'm Sm'th wrote:

> Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets here, is there
> any way I can disable the ratchet in the old 6-speed shifter, reducing
> it to 'friction' mode?

Depends on the shifters. My old XT thumbies had a small switch on the top
for switching to friction mode. If you have to ask though, I'm guessing
you don't have that option. So perhaps pulling them apart and pulling out
the ratchet system(?)

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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 03:06:08 GMT, J'm Sm'th
<smith.house@sbcglobal.clothes.net> blathered:

>Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets here, is there
>any way I can disable the ratchet in the old 6-speed shifter, reducing
>it to 'friction' mode?

Can't help on that - I'm surprised 6 speed thumbies are even indexed,
never mind lacking a friction option.

<http://pages.sbcglobal.net/smith.house/_images/supercal.jpg>

*intake of breath* keep an eye on those bottom bracket welds, now....

Pete

supabonbon

J'm Sm'th <smith.house@sbcglobal.clothes.net> wrote in message news:<20040405223810.15882a6b@shirley>...
> Oh yeah,
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> <http://pages.sbcglobal.net/smith.house/_images/supercal.jpg>

Wow. Those 6 competing frame colors really help drive the
"Frankenbike" concept home. Trippy, man.
To get the big, dumb question out of the way, I guess your shifter
doesn't have that little nub along the side that you can slide betwixt
friction and index shifting?
/s

Andrew Thorne

>
>So, Frankenbike [actually 'Supercalifragilistica'] is operational,
>albeit not yet fully so. The last niggling problem centers around
>pressing an old Shitmano 6-speed thumbie into use for the 8-speed drive
>train [yes, Virginia, I know the answer, "It Doesn't Work"].
>

If you don't have the little switch that slides to from index to friction, you
might be able to dissassemble them, but it's kinda tricky.

The "clicks" caused by a small ball bearing (very small) that settles into
detents on a disc. On the older Suntour shifters, you could flip the disc over,
so the ball just pressed on the smooth surface instead of the detents, and
you'd end up with the sweetest smoothest friction thumbie ever. Not sure if
works the same on the Shimano, but if you're not married to the shifters, it
might be worth a shot.

Cheers,

-Andrew

Shawn Curry

J'm Sm'th wrote:

> So, Frankenbike [actually 'Supercalifragilistica'] is operational,
> albeit not yet fully so. The last niggling problem centers around
> pressing an old Shitmano 6-speed thumbie into use for the 8-speed drive
> train [yes, Virginia, I know the answer, "It Doesn't Work"].
>
> Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets here, is there
> any way I can disable the ratchet in the old 6-speed shifter, reducing
> it to 'friction' mode?
>
> [For those interested, '99 Fisher supercaliber frame, new Tange rigid
> fork, new seatpost, new BB, new headset, scrounged everything else. The
> key find was the Avid brakes and levers a buddy of mine was getting rid
> of since he upgraded to disc brakes. It is pornographic to ride, to say
> the least.]

<http://pages.sbcglobal.net/smith.house/_images/supercal.jpg>

Damn, that's what all mountain bikes used to look like! Where'd you
find the worn out Ground Controls (at least thats what they look like)?
You don't have the lever on your thumb shifter to switch to friction?
Could've been broken off. Anyway a shifter disassembly should show you
the offending detents . A little creative Dremel work, or strategically
located washer(s) should fix you up.

Shawn

Tom Purvis

J'm Sm'th <smith.house@sbcglobal.clothes.net> wrote:
> So, Frankenbike [actually 'Supercalifragilistica'] is operational,
> albeit not yet fully so. The last niggling problem centers around
> pressing an old Shitmano 6-speed thumbie into use for the 8-speed drive
> train [yes, Virginia, I know the answer, "It Doesn't Work"].
>
> Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets here, is there
> any way I can disable the ratchet in the old 6-speed shifter, reducing
> it to 'friction' mode?

Does your shifter have a little slider on the front (away from the rider)?

Is it like this one?:

http://www.arkansasvalley.net/tpurv...ges/shifter.jpg

Notice, the slider with one position labeled SIS. And then notice
that I have it in the other position.

Been pimping around town on this frankenbike for years. It's my big-
deal StumpJumper from the early 90's. Fruitcake-pink, but it's thinwall
steel, and it came with some pretty good stuff on it for less than $1000
more than 10 years ago. Came with a set of The XT Thumbies®. They aren't
on the bike. I keep them in a safe (undisclosed) location.
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S o r n i

Tom Purvis wrote:
> J'm Sm'th <smith.house@sbcglobal.clothes.net> wrote:
>> So, Frankenbike [actually 'Supercalifragilistica'] is operational,
>> albeit not yet fully so. The last niggling problem centers around
>> pressing an old Shitmano 6-speed thumbie into use for the 8-speed
>> drive train [yes, Virginia, I know the answer, "It Doesn't Work"].
>>
>> Until my newly purchased NOS Suntour 7/8 pro shifter gets here, is
>> there any way I can disable the ratchet in the old 6-speed shifter,
>> reducing it to 'friction' mode?
>
> Does your shifter have a little slider on the front (away from the
> rider)?
>
> Is it like this one?:
>
> http://www.arkansasvalley.net/tpurv...ges/shifter.jpg

Love the bell.

Bill "bee nightmares" S.

J'm Sm'th

On 6 Apr 2004 09:21:48 -0700, team_bfd@yahoo.com (Tom Purvis) wrote:
>
> Does your shifter have a little slider on the front (away from the rider)?
>
> Is it like this one?:
>
> http://www.arkansasvalley.net/tpurv...ges/shifter.jpg

Oh Hell No. These are crappy plastic POS shitmano 6-speed shifters. Sounds like
a disassembly job to me. Now, the happy Happy Suntours, they do that. But,
alas, they aren't here yet.


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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:40:29 +0000 (UTC), Pete Jones <peteajones@btinternet.com>
wrote:
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> <http://pages.sbcglobal.net/smith.house/_images/supercal.jpg>
>
> *intake of breath* keep an eye on those bottom bracket welds, now....
>

No shitski. It's already a little creaky, which means I'm going to go over the
whole thing with my torque wrench [again] and make sure it's totally spec. Might
even re-install the BB with teflon tape. It's a commuter bomb, so hopefully I
won't be doing 4' drops with it.

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On 06 Apr 2004 13:40:32 GMT, andrewthorne01@aol.comnospam (Andrew Thorne) wrote:
>
> If you don't have the little switch that slides to from index to friction, you
> might be able to dissassemble them, but it's kinda tricky.
>
> The "clicks" caused by a small ball bearing (very small) that settles into
> detents on a disc. On the older Suntour shifters, you could flip the disc over,
> so the ball just pressed on the smooth surface instead of the detents, and
> you'd end up with the sweetest smoothest friction thumbie ever. Not sure if
> works the same on the Shimano, but if you're not married to the shifters, it
> might be worth a shot.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Andrew

Ah, there's advice I can use. Now I'm off to surf shitmano for a decent diagram.
. .

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