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I give up (hayes Brakes)

 
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Old 07-04.-2004, 02:09 PM   #16
miles todd
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ZeeExSixAre wrote:
>
> I was aware, and very careful. It's not a flowing type of grease... it's
> actually very thick. It's distributor cam grease from a tube that's about
> 20 years old. I wouldn't be surprised if it is more like Locktite in its
> behavior.
>
> The pistons themselves aren't that tiny, IMO. Avid mechs are a little less
> than an inch in diameter, no?
>



It's your life- take it however you choose...

Hayes pistons have a VERY tiny contact area with the pads- look at the
photo. Sure, it's blurry, but you can clearly see the ring that the
piston has left on the back of the pad. The area within the ring isn't
contacted, just the ring itself.

Here's the photo:
http://gallery.consumerreview.com/w...es/PDRM0984.jpg

Miles

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Old 07-04.-2004, 04:26 PM   #17
ZeeExSixAre
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"miles todd" <mdtodd@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> ZeeExSixAre wrote:
> >
> > I was aware, and very careful. It's not a flowing type of grease...

it's
> > actually very thick. It's distributor cam grease from a tube that's

about
> > 20 years old. I wouldn't be surprised if it is more like Locktite in

its
> > behavior.
> >
> > The pistons themselves aren't that tiny, IMO. Avid mechs are a little

less
> > than an inch in diameter, no?
> >

>
>
> It's your life- take it however you choose...
>
> Hayes pistons have a VERY tiny contact area with the pads- look at the
> photo. Sure, it's blurry, but you can clearly see the ring that the
> piston has left on the back of the pad. The area within the ring isn't
> contacted, just the ring itself.
>
> Here's the photo:
> http://gallery.consumerreview.com/w...es/PDRM0984.jpg


Yes, I see what you mean. However, it's enough to dampen the vibrations in
my case.

So I guess I might try the rotor trick next time and see how that works.
Thanks for enlightening me.

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Phil, Squid-in-Training



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Old 07-04.-2004, 11:47 PM   #18
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I will not give up my Chris King rear hub. I bought a Hayes wavy rotor and
new Kool Stop pads. Will try blue goo and a touch of grease behind the
pads. If that does not work, the next thing is to have the brake mounts
refaced.

I guess I haven't given up yet.

"miles todd" <mdtodd@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> Dean A. Stepper wrote:
> > Thanks

>
> I hope it works for you. My experience with disc brakes has been that
> howls are typically hub issues. If you changed hubs, the noise would
> most likely vanish. However, since that is not often feasible, the blue
> goo usually does the job.
>
> Miles
>



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Old 09-04.-2004, 02:39 AM   #19
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Go to: http://www.mtbr.com/ then find the product reviews section and
go to disc brake section. It will go through most of the brands of
disc brakes and the people reviewing will in many cases articulate
their problems. This is very good information to base a buying
decision on.

After I read the reviews a I bought the Avid mechanical discs. They
were reviewed and rated very well. The information on them in the
reviews was right on.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 17:15:11 -0700, "Dean A. Stepper"
<dstepper@NOSPAMcox.net> wrote:

>I am so tried of my rear brake (Hayes HFX with a 6 inches rotor) squealing
>like a stuck pig. Problem is when it is hot it will not be quite. Been
>living with this intermittent problem since I bought my Turner 5-spot over
>one-year ago. I have tried all the suggestions gleamed from this group, to
>no avail. Did not have this problem on my old bike with cheap 525 Hydraulic
>Shimano Deores.
>
>I am ready to try another brakes and open to suggestions. The first brake
>set that comes to mind is Avid Juicy Seven's.
>


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Old 10-04.-2004, 12:29 AM   #20
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<basilkies@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Go to: http://www.mtbr.com/ then find the product reviews section and
> go to disc brake section. It will go through most of the brands of
> disc brakes and the people reviewing will in many cases articulate
> their problems. This is very good information to base a buying
> decision on.
>

Uh oh...

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Old 10-04.-2004, 12:38 AM   #21
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"mojo deluxe" <voudin61@hellsouth.nett> wrote in message
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> <basilkies@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:tc3b70l42beq1hlg1rr0br3ctnrntinknc@4ax.com...
> > Go to: http://www.mtbr.com/ then find the product reviews section and
> > go to disc brake section. It will go through most of the brands of
> > disc brakes and the people reviewing will in many cases articulate
> > their problems. This is very good information to base a buying
> > decision on.
> >

> Uh oh...
>


The guy is so out there I didn't even bother.

Greg


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Old 10-04.-2004, 01:06 AM   #22
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basilkies@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<tc3b70l42beq1hlg1rr0br3ctnrntinknc@4ax.com>...
> Go to: http://www.mtbr.com/ then find the product reviews section and
> go to disc brake section. It will go through most of the brands of
> disc brakes and the people reviewing will in many cases articulate
> their problems. This is very good information to base a buying
> decision on.
>
> After I read the reviews a I bought the Avid mechanical discs. They
> were reviewed and rated very well. The information on them in the
> reviews was right on.


Please refrain from top-posting.

The reviews you cite in mtbr all have the same failing - "I bought
them, so they must be good." The only credible writings are those of
the problem nature - and only if they are mentioned more than a couple
of times.

For example - some Marzocchi forks were criticized as over-damped.
Come to find out, quite a few Marz forks came from the factory
over-filled with oil. The criticism was valid, and the fix was easy.
All those folks who wrote "these are the greatest forks ever"
contributed nothing. In the same way, glowing reviews don't mean a
damn thing.

Go ahead and read all about Easton's carbon fiber stuff. Then come
back here and read what happened to that stuff from folks who actually
used it.

The reviews over there have some use, but they have to be taken with a
bucketfull of salt.
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Jonesy
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