Jersey etiquette

Matt O'Toole

Zoot Katz wrote:

> I figure that when you're wearing pink, people think you're
> feeble-minded so cut you some extra room. It's amazing really.

Ah, the Klinger strategy...

Matt O.

jeffbonny

So "cheg" <cheg01@NOSPAM.org.com> says:

>"tk" <pm200054@optonline.net> wrote in message
>news:jFLbc.15742$dp2.3999988@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...

>> How could you possibly care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think
>> of you ?
>> How could you possibly care what someone else thinks of your clothes?
>> Does it make you comfortable?
>> Does it make you happy?
>>
>
>I don't give a rip, but it's always good to know what pisses people off, whether
>you want to avoid it or provoke it.
>

I admit lacking certain social skills and the idea of a wannabe joey
wearing a tour leader's jersey offends me but the idea of a shit
disturber wearing it to piss people of has a certain appeal...

To the source of yer question though it may need to be noted that when
a race fan talks about wear _A_ yellow jersey he's really talking
about _THE_ yellow jersey, a distinction the uninitiated prob'ly
wouldn't make.

jeffb

cheg

"jeffbonny" <jeffbonny@REMCAPSshaw.ca> wrote:
> So "cheg" <cheg01@NOSPAM.org.com> says:
>
> >I don't give a rip, but it's always good to know what pisses people off,
whether
> >you want to avoid it or provoke it.
> >
>
> I admit lacking certain social skills and the idea of a wannabe joey
> wearing a tour leader's jersey offends me but the idea of a shit
> disturber wearing it to piss people of has a certain appeal...
>
> To the source of yer question though it may need to be noted that when
> a race fan talks about wear _A_ yellow jersey he's really talking
> about _THE_ yellow jersey, a distinction the uninitiated prob'ly
> wouldn't make.
>
> jeffb

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. One of the many problems that occur in
caste systems is that nuances of discrimination tend to get lost among those who
wish to appear knowledgeable in order to escape ridicule themselves. A persons
altitude is determined by who they can look down on, so if you know there is
something wrong with wearing yellow jerseys you have the opportunity to lord it
over soemone who knows even less than you about what is acceptable. Certainly,
if there is a rule against racing in such a jersey then you shouldn't do it, any
more than you should take drugs to make you go faster. But is someone wants to
ride around in Lances shirt on Lances bike with Lances jockstrap around his head
why is there a problem? It's not about the shirt. It all reminds me of high
school. I'll admit there is some temptation to do it because it bothers people,
but I did eventually quit smoking despite the exceptionally high and growing
irritation factor.

jeffbonny

So "cheg" <cheg01@NOSPAM.org.com> says:

> But is someone wants to
>ride around in Lances shirt on Lances bike with Lances jockstrap around his head
>why is there a problem? It's not about the shirt.

lol

Benjamin Weiner

Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote:

> Having heard from everyone in this thread, I thought I'd chime in with
> my experiences (not for myself; my jerseys until my club shirt comes in
> are plain red and plain goldenrod, the latter shade nowhere near TdF
> yellow). There's a triathlete who rides a lot of local novice races for
> training (archetypal tri-geek: he can pull like mad, but can't sprint).
> He wears a full-on yellow jersey complete with Credit Lyonnais branding
> to every race. I think he gets some gentle mocking for that and is
> invariably referred to as "Lance" by other riders, but it's nothing he
> worries about.

> And really, who cares? If you're riding in Cat 5, well, ride in whatever
> ridiculous fantasy jersey you want. Yellow jersey fans are no more
> delusional than ONCE-Eroski full-kit wearers, or anyone else out there.
> Even I'm "making a statement" with my plain red jersey and plain black
> shorts: I intend to earn any sponsorship logos on my body the hard-ish
> way: by joining a sponsored club .

FWIW, I believe the USCF rules say that a rider may not wear a jersey
of a team that he/she doesn't belong to, in a race. Riders on the
same team are required to wear similar jerseys for obvious reasons.
(What you do on your own time is your own business. No idea what the
Canadian rules are.) I've not actually seen this enforced - a cat 5
who shows up in a USPS jersey (yes I have seen that) is probably more
likely to be lightly mocked than DQed I suspect. Unattached riders
with sense or experience tend to wear relatively plain jerseys. In
'cross races, of course, a 70s disco shirt or a dress is also
acceptable.

I'd think that in most areas, there are some clubs that will welcome
anybody who's interested (and some that are more closed). Like every
type of social organization in a relatively atomized age, clubs
have to work to keep membership up. The important thing is finding
one with people you like.

Curtis L. Russell

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:27:46 -0500, Rick Onanian <spamsink@cox.net>
wrote:

>Shit, sounds like gang wars. Having seen a total of maybe 4 minutes
>of bicycle racing in my whole life, I have no idea what it looks
>like; if I find a jersey I like that's yellow, now I have to worry
>about pissing off some jerk?

Rather doubt it. Some team jerseys are the same yellow, or have enough
that you would think it was at glance (especially yellow and pale
green).

Been around bicycle racing for about 30 years until recently, and the
only comment that I ever heard was when a citizen rolled around in a
national jersey (at Crofton, MD about ten years ago). Now there are
enough of those handed out that everyone was trying to guess who it
was, and then he lined up for the citizens' race. A bit of ridicule
for that, but mostly among the racers and not very loud.

Racers don't worry, because you're in this years team jersey for the
race and you usually are expected to train in this years or last for
sponsorship. They know everyone else is a citizen.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Curtis L. Russell

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 14:15:05 -0600, Zippy the Pinhead
<the_corporate_hose@hotmail.com> wrote:

>They why aren't there more fluorescent pink fire engines?

I think works best for daytime, not at night. Red and pink are both
colors that go brown under artifical and low light.

Once owned a red Neon that was a pain to find in a parking lot at
night.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Matt O'Toole

Curtis L. Russell wrote:

> On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 14:15:05 -0600, Zippy the Pinhead
> <the_corporate_hose@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They why aren't there more fluorescent pink fire engines?
>
> I think works best for daytime, not at night. Red and pink are both
> colors that go brown under artifical and low light.
>
> Once owned a red Neon that was a pain to find in a parking lot at
> night.

I knew there had to be a good reason!

Matt O.

Claire Petersky

"Zoot Katz" <zootkatz@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:407477d5.32485188@news.individual.net...

> Pink's hot. I get plenty of favourable comments from women when I'm
> wearing one of my pink jackets.
>
> When I first started wearing pink, the effect was noticeable. You do
> get seen in yellow but pink's different. They stare at you.
>
> I figure that when you're wearing pink, people think you're
> feeble-minded so cut you some extra room. It's amazing really.

I can say I've actually seen Zoot's pink jacket in the flesh -- I think I'd
give him some extra room myself :-)


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Zippy the Pinhead

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 16:25:27 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
<cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>I can say I've actually seen Zoot's pink jacket in the flesh -- I think I'd
>give him some extra room myself :-)

I think I'd give Zoot a lot of room just on general principle...

Chris Zacho The Wheelman

Le Mailot Jeune(Sp?) is a special jersey, with official TdF logos on it
and a rear zip, unlike any other yellow jersey on the market.

If you like yellow, wear yellow. I've worn spotted jerseys (nix logos)
many times on mountain rides, and no one's fussed about it. Especially
if I've just passed them on a hill. ;-3)

- -

"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

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Zoot Katz

Mon, 05 Apr 2004 12:12:36 -0500,
<cr4370ltjallivu0jqqbqq87u02vt0mene@4ax.com>, Kevan Smith
<Kevan@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>>>
>>> I figure that when you're wearing pink, people think you're
>>> feeble-minded so cut you some extra room. It's amazing really.
>>
>>I can say I've actually seen Zoot's pink jacket in the flesh -- I think I'd
>>give him some extra room myself :-)
>
>Zoot's wearing the maglia rosa without having earned it?!?!

Claire saw the bright pink Sugoi jersey. It's hot pink windproof nylon
on the full-zip front, sleeves and shoulders. The back and strip down
each sleeve is wicking black stretchy stuff. 3 pockets and reflective
stips. It can be worn as a long sleeve jersey or light jacket.

The other is a bright pink Louis Garneau MTB jacket with some
insulation and breathable stretch panels from the stretch cuffs to the
stretch waist. Two zippers on the back pocket lets it work as added
ventilation. It's comfortable for spring and fall riding so I can wear
it all winter.

Scored 'em both for less than ten bucks at the Sally Ann.

Yellow jackets look like security guards so you get no respect.
--
zk

Zoot Katz

Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:40:55 -0400 (EDT),
<941-4071E077-308@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net>,
ChriszCorner@webtv.net (Chris Zacho "The Wheelman") wrote:

>Le Mailot Jeune(Sp?) is a special jersey, with official TdF logos on it
>and a rear zip, unlike any other yellow jersey on the market.

You're thinking of the what they wear on the podium at the end of the
race. Those are made up on the spot for the awards ceremony.

The "real" race leaders' jerseys are delivered in time for the start
of next day's stage.
--
zk

H. M. Leary

In article <XLfcc.191363$Cb.1729614@attbi_s51>,
"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

> "Zoot Katz" <zootkatz@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:407477d5.32485188@news.individual.net...
>
> > Pink's hot. I get plenty of favourable comments from women when I'm
> > wearing one of my pink jackets.
> >
> > When I first started wearing pink, the effect was noticeable. You do
> > get seen in yellow but pink's different. They stare at you.
> >
> > I figure that when you're wearing pink, people think you're
> > feeble-minded so cut you some extra room. It's amazing really.
>
> I can say I've actually seen Zoot's pink jacket in the flesh -- I think I'd
> give him some extra room myself :-)
>
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Claire Petersky
> Please replace earthlink for mouse-potato and .net for .com
> Home of the meditative cyclist:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~cpetersky/Welcome.htm
> See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
>
>

You¹ve seen the jacket, or Zoot in the flesh???

I am going to be sick....

Heal up quickley, Claire.

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