Jersey etiquette

Gooserider

"Matt O'Toole" <matt@deltanet.com> wrote in message
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> Zippy the Pinhead wrote:
>
> > Visibility is improved wearing yellow. It's the closest color to the
> > one that was selected for fire trucks and emergency equipment -- that
> > sort of lime-greeney-yellow color. If someone makes a jersey in that
> > firetruck color, I'll give up the yellow.
>
> Actually, if you're really concerned about visibility, flourescent pink is
the
> best color. Many studies have been done on this subject, and pink always
wins.
>
> > Until then I could give a rabid rat's rump about who rags me.
>
> Start wearing a flourescent pink jersey, and we'll see...
>
> :-)

You mean like a team T-Mobile jersey? That's very Fabrizio of you to
suggest..... :-)

Rick Onanian

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 08:08:29 GMT, jeffbonny
<jeffbonny@REMCAPSshaw.ca> wrote:
>Get a grip. There is only one yellow jersey, we all know what it looks
>like and only an asshole wears it without having won it.

Shit, sounds like gang wars. Having seen a total of maybe 4 minutes
of bicycle racing in my whole life, I have no idea what it looks
like; if I find a jersey I like that's yellow, now I have to worry
about pissing off some jerk?
--
Rick Onanian

Mike Kruger

"Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 08:08:29 GMT, jeffbonny
> <jeffbonny@REMCAPSshaw.ca> wrote:
> >Get a grip. There is only one yellow jersey, we all know what it looks
> >like and only an asshole wears it without having won it.
>
> Shit, sounds like gang wars. Having seen a total of maybe 4 minutes
> of bicycle racing in my whole life, I have no idea what it looks
> like; if I find a jersey I like that's yellow, now I have to worry
> about pissing off some jerk?
> --

The guy who HAS won it a lot doesn't seem to mind.
Scroll down on Lance's web site and you will see the "Tour of Hope" (cancer
connection cycling group) all decked out in yellow jerseys.

David Kerber

In article <69it60d9guk639g1pnlhmh6uln35hl9iv1@4ax.com>,
the_corporate_hose@hotmail.com says...
> On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 07:23:43 GMT, "cheg" <cheg01@NOSPAM.org.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I have read about how people get ragged on for wearing "the" yellow jersey (TdF)
> >while riding, but does this extend to all yellow jerseys? What about , for
> >example, a Brazil national soccer team shirt or an LA Lakers jersey? What about
> >a plain yellow shirt? Should everyone stop wearing yellow rain jackets?
> >Enquiring minds want to know.
>
> Etiquette, schmetiquette.
>
> Visibility is improved wearing yellow. It's the closest color to the
> one that was selected for fire trucks and emergency equipment -- that
> sort of lime-greeney-yellow color. If someone makes a jersey in that
> firetruck color, I'll give up the yellow.

I have no problem with a yellow jersey either; it's just the replica
leaders jerseys which aggravate me.


> Until then I could give a rabid rat's rump about who rags me. Nobody
> is ever going to mistake me for a TdF winner wannabe, anyway.
>
> My favorite jersey (I wore it out) was bright yellow and had a great
> big "Less Than" ( < ) sign on its back, like the roadside signs that
> tell drivers they'd better get over or be in the ditch on rural roads.

And it doesn't look like the TdF leader's jersey either, so there's no
problem.



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David Kerber

In article <3rau60tbsu679prj2nn1ktmcbhov2kvhu5@4ax.com>,
spamsink@cox.net says...
> On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 08:08:29 GMT, jeffbonny
> <jeffbonny@REMCAPSshaw.ca> wrote:
> >Get a grip. There is only one yellow jersey, we all know what it looks
> >like and only an asshole wears it without having won it.
>
> Shit, sounds like gang wars. Having seen a total of maybe 4 minutes
> of bicycle racing in my whole life, I have no idea what it looks
> like; if I find a jersey I like that's yellow, now I have to worry
> about pissing off some jerk?

Nope; only if it has all the decals and sponsor's logo's. Plain yellow
is no problem.


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Collin O'Neill

Probably because it would be too feminine - thy are fireMEN, after all
(gruff voice implied). But you'll notice that a lot of fire engines are now
bright lime-green, which has also been shown to be WAY more visible than
red.

"Zippy the Pinhead" <the_corporate_hose@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:05:12 GMT, "Matt O'Toole" <matt@deltanet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Actually, if you're really concerned about visibility, flourescent pink
is the
> >best color. Many studies have been done on this subject, and pink always
wins.
>
> They why aren't there more fluorescent pink fire engines?

Ryan Cousineau

In article <3Etbc.64604$JO3.38277@attbi_s04>,
"cheg" <cheg01@NOSPAM.org.com> wrote:

> I have read about how people get ragged on for wearing "the" yellow jersey
> (TdF)
> while riding, but does this extend to all yellow jerseys? What about , for
> example, a Brazil national soccer team shirt or an LA Lakers jersey? What
> about
> a plain yellow shirt? Should everyone stop wearing yellow rain jackets?
> Enquiring minds want to know.

Having heard from everyone in this thread, I thought I'd chime in with
my experiences (not for myself; my jerseys until my club shirt comes in
are plain red and plain goldenrod, the latter shade nowhere near TdF
yellow). There's a triathlete who rides a lot of local novice races for
training (archetypal tri-geek: he can pull like mad, but can't sprint).
He wears a full-on yellow jersey complete with Credit Lyonnais branding
to every race. I think he gets some gentle mocking for that and is
invariably referred to as "Lance" by other riders, but it's nothing he
worries about.

And really, who cares? If you're riding in Cat 5, well, ride in whatever
ridiculous fantasy jersey you want. Yellow jersey fans are no more
delusional than ONCE-Eroski full-kit wearers, or anyone else out there.
Even I'm "making a statement" with my plain red jersey and plain black
shorts: I intend to earn any sponsorship logos on my body the hard-ish
way: by joining a sponsored club .


--
Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine/wiredcola/
President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Chris B.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 05:18:07 +1000, "DRS" <drs@removethis.ihug.com.au>
wrote:

>Mike Beauchamp <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> wrote in message
>c4n0u30noh@enews3.newsguy.com
>> HOW DARE someone put their child in that yellow jersey, without the
>> baby having won it!!!!!!! Any baby that would wear that is an
>> asshole.. obviously I'm being sarcastic.
>
>If your sarcasm is obvious you don't need to say so.

Really?

Gooserider

"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
news:rcousine-0B8C74.15462303042004@morgoth.sfu.ca...
> In article <3Etbc.64604$JO3.38277@attbi_s04>,
> "cheg" <cheg01@NOSPAM.org.com> wrote:
>
> > I have read about how people get ragged on for wearing "the" yellow
jersey
> > (TdF)
> > while riding, but does this extend to all yellow jerseys? What about ,
for
> > example, a Brazil national soccer team shirt or an LA Lakers jersey?
What
> > about
> > a plain yellow shirt? Should everyone stop wearing yellow rain jackets?
> > Enquiring minds want to know.
>
> Having heard from everyone in this thread, I thought I'd chime in with
> my experiences (not for myself; my jerseys until my club shirt comes in
> are plain red and plain goldenrod, the latter shade nowhere near TdF
> yellow). There's a triathlete who rides a lot of local novice races for
> training (archetypal tri-geek: he can pull like mad, but can't sprint).
> He wears a full-on yellow jersey complete with Credit Lyonnais branding
> to every race. I think he gets some gentle mocking for that and is
> invariably referred to as "Lance" by other riders, but it's nothing he
> worries about.
>
> And really, who cares? If you're riding in Cat 5, well, ride in whatever
> ridiculous fantasy jersey you want. Yellow jersey fans are no more
> delusional than ONCE-Eroski full-kit wearers, or anyone else out there.
> Even I'm "making a statement" with my plain red jersey and plain black
> shorts: I intend to earn any sponsorship logos on my body the hard-ish
> way: by joining a sponsored club .

I would never show up to a race wearing team kit, but I see nothing wrong
with someone training in a yellow jersey, if they are fans of Lance. It's no
different than someone wearing a Peyton Manning jersey to their flag
football game. It doesn't mean the guy is trying to impersonate Peyton, and
Peyton earned his jersey just as much as Lance earned the Maillot Jaune.
IMHO, of course.

Zoot Katz

Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:05:12 GMT,
<YgBbc.4805$Zw.1229@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
"Matt O'Toole" <matt@deltanet.com> wrote:

>> Until then I could give a rabid rat's rump about who rags me.
>
>Start wearing a flourescent pink jersey, and we'll see...

Pink's hot. I get plenty of favourable comments from women when I'm
wearing one of my pink jackets.

When I first started wearing pink, the effect was noticeable. You do
get seen in yellow but pink's different. They stare at you.

I figure that when you're wearing pink, people think you're
feeble-minded so cut you some extra room. It's amazing really.
--
zk

tk

"cheg" <cheg01@NOSPAM.org.com> wrote in message
news:3Etbc.64604$JO3.38277@attbi_s04...
> I have read about how people get ragged on for wearing "the" yellow jersey
(TdF)
> while riding, but does this extend to all yellow jerseys? What about , for
> example, a Brazil national soccer team shirt or an LA Lakers jersey? What
about
> a plain yellow shirt? Should everyone stop wearing yellow rain jackets?
> Enquiring minds want to know.

How could you possibly care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think
of you ?
How could you possibly care what someone else thinks of your clothes?
Does it make you comfortable?
Does it make you happy?

--
"Consensus is the absence of leadership." Margaret Thatcher

tk

> They why aren't there more fluorescent pink fire engines?
That would make for some very interesting hoses.
Might we also have the purple helmet?

cheg

"tk" <pm200054@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> "cheg" <cheg01@NOSPAM.org.com> wrote in message
> news:3Etbc.64604$JO3.38277@attbi_s04...
> > I have read about how people get ragged on for wearing "the" yellow jersey
> (TdF)
> > while riding, but does this extend to all yellow jerseys? What about , for
> > example, a Brazil national soccer team shirt or an LA Lakers jersey? What
> about
> > a plain yellow shirt? Should everyone stop wearing yellow rain jackets?
> > Enquiring minds want to know.
>
> How could you possibly care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think
> of you ?
> How could you possibly care what someone else thinks of your clothes?
> Does it make you comfortable?
> Does it make you happy?
>

I don't give a rip, but it's always good to know what pisses people off, whether
you want to avoid it or provoke it.

Zippy the Pinhead

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:14:06 -0800, Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail.com>
wrote:
>
>When I first started wearing pink, the effect was noticeable. You do
>get seen in yellow but pink's different. They stare at you.
>
>I figure that when you're wearing pink, people think you're
>feeble-minded so cut you some extra room. It's amazing really.

You may be on to something there, Zoot; that is worth a try.