Australians

David Off

How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there, the
country is the other side of the planet, it is far too hot
to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the top ten
again today.

Pistof

"David Off" <david.off_dumpthisbit_@voila.fr> wrote in message
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> How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
> the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
> hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
> top ten again today.

Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe someone of
his caliber would quit so early..., or at all! He should've
tried to finish even if he wasn't really in the spirit of
being competitive. It would've been one more TdF under his
belt and probably some good base training too. McEwen looked
comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great this year.

Dave

Carl Sundquist

"Pistof" <dataylor123@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "David Off" <david.off_dumpthisbit_@voila.fr> wrote in
> message news:40eebda0$0$11213$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-
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> > How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
> > the country is the other side of the planet, it is far
> > too hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in
> > the top ten again today.
>
> Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe someone
> of his caliber would quit so early..., or at all! He
> should've tried to finish even if
he
> wasn't really in the spirit of being competitive. It
> would've been one
more
> TdF under his belt and probably some good base training
> too. McEwen
looked
> comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great
> this year.
>

That makes about as much sense as continuing to race a race
car with a flat tire.

The remainder of your post about McGee is too absurd to
comment on.

Pistof

"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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> "Pistof" <dataylor123@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > "David Off" <david.off_dumpthisbit_@voila.fr> wrote in
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> > > How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives
> > > there, the country
is
> > > the other side of the planet, it is far too hot to
> > > train and yet
they've
> > > just placed two guys in the top ten again today.
> >
> > Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe
> > someone of his
caliber
> > would quit so early..., or at all! He should've tried to
> > finish even if
> he
> > wasn't really in the spirit of being competitive. It
> > would've been one
> more
> > TdF under his belt and probably some good base training
> > too. McEwen
> looked
> > comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great
> > this year.
> >
>
> That makes about as much sense as continuing to race a
> race car with a
flat
> tire.
>
> The remainder of your post about McGee is too absurd to
> comment on.

Don't get your panties all bunched up, Carl. McGee has fans
(like myself) that want to watch him on TV for a change.
Ditto for McEwen. That's all.

Dave

Andrew Price

David Off wrote -

> How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
> the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
> hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
> top ten again today.

When it comes to sport (any sport) we want to have a go, and
if the podium seems unattainable, so much the better.

Wish we could apply that attitude to a few other things that
need fixing round the place,

best, Andrew

"But riding is my special gift, my chiefest, sole delight;
Just ask a wild duck can it swim, a wildcat can it fight...
I'll ride this here two-wheeled concern, right straight
away, at sight." A B 'Banjo' Patterson - "Mulga Bill" 25
July 1896.

Carl Sundquist

"Pistof" <dataylor123@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > > Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe
> > > someone of his
> caliber
> > > would quit so early..., or at all! He should've tried
> > > to finish even
if
> > he
> > > wasn't really in the spirit of being competitive. It
> > > would've been
one
> > more
> > > TdF under his belt and probably some good base
> > > training too. McEwen
> > looked
> > > comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great this
> > > year.
> > >
> >
> > That makes about as much sense as continuing to race a
> > race car with a
> flat
> > tire.
> >
> > The remainder of your post about McGee is too absurd to
> > comment on.
>
> Don't get your panties all bunched up, Carl. McGee has
> fans (like myself) that want to watch him on TV for a
> change. Ditto for McEwen. That's all.
>

Sorry 'bout that. I didn't pick up on your frustration as a
fan as the reason for your comments. Given the dumb
comments about Petacchi and Cipo today, I thought this was
more of the same.

As a rider, McGee absolutely did the proper thing by
retiring from the race. As I understand his pride,
determination, and desire for success, I'm sure he DNS'd
only as the last option. Carrying on in the race would not
have been beneficial for him or FdJ. He risked making the
injury worse and prolonging the healing time by continuing.
Base training would also be much more beneficial when
healthy. The experience of another TdF under those
conditions would not likely have much value to a healthy
racer. Having him continue would be an unnecessary drain to
team resources, be it teammates assisting him at times,
staff having to wait for him at the finish, or to adding to
the fatigue of therapists and mechanics who would look after
him. Other than tactical advice, it was unlikely that McGee
could have contributed to the success of the team. As pack
filler, he would have only been shown on TV in a pitiful
state much like Jimmi Casper last year with his neck brace,
something I'm sure he would rather not endure. McGee had
nothing to gain by continuing simply for the sake of
continuing.

I'm not saying, "Good riddance." that he's out of the race.
Quite the contrary. I consider him to be a magnificent
rider. I wish he could have stayed in as well as Petacchi,
and I wish riders like Vino could have started, too. Makes
for a much more enjoyable show.

Tom Kunich

"David Off" <david.off_dumpthisbit_@voila.fr> wrote in message
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> How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
> the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
> hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
> top ten again today.

Hey Davey - they're a lot smarter than Europeans too. They
catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.

Richard Adams

Tom Kunich wrote:

> "David Off" <david.off_dumpthisbit_@voila.fr> wrote in
> message news:40eebda0$0$11213$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-
> 05.noos.net...
>
>>How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
>>the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
>>hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
>>top ten again today.
>
>
> Hey Davey - they're a lot smarter than Europeans too. They
> catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.
>
>

I dunno, seem to be a lot of them in Canberra.

David Off

Andrew Price wrote:

> David Off wrote -
>
>
>>How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
>>the country is the other side of the planet, it is far too
>>hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in the
>>top ten again today.
>
>
> When it comes to sport (any sport) we want to have a go,
> and if the podium seems unattainable, so much the better.

It seems pretty much everyone in Oz must be a sportman given
their sucess in other areas. I know the Aussies have a long
history in the tour but it is still very impressive.

David Off

Richard Adams wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>
>> "David Off" <david.off_dumpthisbit_@voila.fr> wrote in
>> message news:40eebda0$0$11213$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-
>> 05.noos.net...
>>
>>> How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
>>> the country is the other side of the planet, it is far
>>> too hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in
>>> the top ten again today.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Davey - they're a lot smarter than Europeans too.
>> They catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.
>>
>>
>
> I dunno, seem to be a lot of them in Canberra.
>
Or they send them to NY... Like the Dirty Digger. :-)

Steve McGinty

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 18:21:14 -0500, "Carl Sundquist"
<carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:

>
>"Pistof" <dataylor123@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > >
>> > > Yeah, but what happened to McGee? I can't believe
>> > > someone of his
>> caliber
>> > > would quit so early..., or at all! He should've tried
>> > > to finish even
>if
>> > he
>> > > wasn't really in the spirit of being competitive. It
>> > > would've been
>one
>> > more
>> > > TdF under his belt and probably some good base
>> > > training too. McEwen
>> > looked
>> > > comfortable in Yellow, tho, and he's doing great this
>> > > year.
>> > >
I'd have thought the only person happy to see him continue
would be Bradley Wiggins...

Regards! Stephen

Marty Wallace

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> > "David Off" <david.off_dumpthisbit_@voila.fr> wrote in
> > message news:40eebda0$0$11213$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-
> > 05.noos.net...
> >
> >>How do the Australians do it? Hardly anyone lives there,
> >>the country is the other side of the planet, it is far
> >>too hot to train and yet they've just placed two guys in
> >>the top ten again today.
> >
> >
> > Hey Davey - they're a lot smarter than Europeans too.
> > They catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.
> >
> >
>
> I dunno, seem to be a lot of them in Canberra.
>

Canberra is in Australia, not Europe. Read it again. They
catch their cheaters BEFORE they get to Europe.

Marty

jcjordan

Having lived in the land of Oz since 1983, moved from Canada at age 12, I can say there is one reason how we do it.

Sun, most of the country has great weather for 8 months of the year. The other 4 are evenly split between really hot, 30 deg Celsius plus, or unpleasently cold, 10 deg or less.

This give you lots of time to train or just have fun.

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Kyle Legate

jcjordan wrote:
>
> Having lived in the land of Oz since 1983, moved from
> Canada at age 12, I can say there is one reason how
> we do it.
>
> Sun, most of the country has great weather for 8 months of
> the year. The other 4 are evenly split between really hot,
> 30 deg Celsius plus, or unpleasently cold, 10 deg or
> less.
>
If you think 10 degrees is unpleasantly cold, I think you
forgot a lot from your years in Canada.