Bush or Kerry or ???

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Um, the trains and subways are powered by electricity, not fossile fuels, and many buses are powered by natural gas. Not to mention that in Paris much of the bus traffic will soon be replaced by an ELECTRIC tramway system, which will in turn reduce automobile traffic.

Cars are a necessary evil, but a proper transportation INFRASTRUCTURE (which you contend is only for smelly mass transit users in poor countries, right?) can cut way back on car use. But if you want to continue getting more excercise by driving your car instead of using public transportation (you're the one who said it), then I'm sure you can continue to justify your actions.

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I have never made any assumptions or generalizations about the intelligence of conservatives, "inbred mouth breathers" is certainly not how I would refer to my own parents, brothers and sisters, and about 90% of the rest of my extended family.

As per your theory, I admit, I have not taken the time to really look at it. I have heard such theories before, and they may have a lot of merit. Perhaps global warming cannot be pinned on industry and automobile emissions, but is the result of natural phenomena. Point taken.

But Weisse, are you going to tell me that automobiles are not major contributors to the pollution problem? Really? Or maybe pollution isn't really a problem at all? Is the idea that cars pollute also more liberal propaganda?

Get real. Cars pollute, global warming or not. Cars are comfy. I love mine (recent model Audi A6 station wagon). I love to drive. Been driving since I could see over the steering wheel. But I'm not going to sit here and tell you that it's better to drive my car when alternative transportation is possible and practical.

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Me thatch roof is coming along well - I hope we don't have potato blight again this years, cause we'll all be heading to Ellis Island with our bad teeth,
erectile dysfunction etc.

The problem on these forums is that the Bush conservative supporters immediately go in to ultra-defensive mode and they have a go at the fellow
AMERICAN democrat supporters, when any adverse criticism is made of the Bush Goverment.
They equate Republican as being American, and Democrat as being UnAmerican.
Flawed logic, no doubt.
Play this to it's logical conclusion - and you have political opinion polarising.

One poster talks about his Commander and Chief - because in this case he's
referring to George Bush.
But in the next breath he slags off his prior Commander in Chief (Clinton).
His job requires him to be equally loyal to the JOB OF COMMANDER IN CHIEF,
yet he affords the OCCUPANTS OF THAT JOB different levels of respect.
Flawed logic.

If you sit back and think about it - nearly 1000 US soldiers have died in an
illegal war in Iraq.
American blood spilt in an illegal war.

But these Republican guys here will only squeal when the issue of whether a stain on a dress constitutes bad behaviour by their Commander in Chief.

Anyway I'm off back to me thatch roof because me Protestant land lord is coming to collect the rent and I need to get to the mart to sell me turf before he arrives for the few shillings (he's deliberately putting up that rent -
those Corn laws are terrible).

Before I go, I much prefer my President to be chasing the dollybirds round the room, than trying to prove a point by starting a war on false pretences.
But sure amn't I a spud picking Catholic living here in the dark ages with only
a candle for illumination ?

see ya.

TrekDedicated

Yes I did ask for it. I like how you tried to sound all tough with your starting sentence. However, I never said

You even quoted me,



I used little bitch, but never that phrase. You should learn to properly cite/quote someone.

Needless profanity? Man, your memory is sooo short.



I don't use the f-word that often honey compared to a lot of people. You resort to more language than I do. And have a real anger problem.

I agree with Weisse and Zap and I happened to find that quote funny. How is that supposed to be macho?

Oh I'm sorry 'shut up' seems childish to you. I guess you are wayyy over the hill. I feel so young now. Thanks MOM!!!

Um no it doesn't scare me to have people disagree with me. If it did, why would I be posting here? Trying to intimidate me is ridiculous.

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I'm sorry, I know I've been rather verbose today, but something strange about this post really struck me... Other than the invention of food by Americans... It's the really weird idea that the French planted trees on both sides of the Champs for the nazi soldiers. First, if plantations of that type date to the occupation of PAris, then it would have been under the orders of the occupying government that the trees were planted, not as a gift from the French to nazi soldiers.

And second, there have been trees lining the champs for atleast a century, quite likely more (photo at link below of the champs elysées in 1900). The French have always lined avenues, streets and even national higways (before the autoroute) with trees for shade. You see it all over the country.

I was just wondering where you got that information.

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This is not a correct quote, then? You talk about shutting up little bitches, am I mistaken? If this is not a proper citation, then I don't know what is.

You are a real expert at the pot calling the kettle black. I may have used the "f" word 2 times, here I see you used the "b" word two times. And your post predates mine, eh?

As for my anger problem, once again, I'd suggest you're projecting, as you seem to be one angry person yourself, there.

I didn't say that agreeing with that quote about liberals was macho, are you sure you're quoting me correctly?

And now I'm trying to intimidate you? Maybe I'll just tell you to shut up (that's not intimidating?) and go eat some liberty fries with catsup... Great accompaniment to your whine, too.

You are very amusing.

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Yes I did say I want to shut them up, but you quoted me as saying 'shutting up the little bitches' and then said I could not speak properly. That is where I am coming from on that matter.

Bitch isn't as vulgar/strong as fuck.

[quote]And this is a little quote from Weisse, which you met with mucho enthusiasm by telling him he was one of your favorite people on the board...[/qoute] My bad, mucho, but what are you implying with what I had said?

Okay, that's cool, go eat your freedom fries with catsup, but I think you should stick to your mayo.

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No, you haven't heard of my theory because the majority of politically connected scientists assume these clathrates will be subject to dissociation and release their methane, furthering global warming. The reaction rate as demonstrated by MBARI disporves this.




The technology used on cars today results in the cleanest burning of fossil fuels possible. That A6 you have is possibly a TLEV, Transient Low Emission Vehicle. This means that even during the startup and WOT regimes, the engine is within government regulations for steady state operation. Cars today are thousands of times cleaner in their emissions than those produced only 10 years ago.

Oh yes, I should have been clearer. In my years serving on famine releif missions, I have NEVER seen ANY food products donated by the country of France. USA(over 90%), Australia, Canada but no France.

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Ouh, ouch, peg burn, zapper. Ya French people really stink and in 2004 still don't use deodorant, and the women don't shave under their arms? You are so full of stereotypes it is mindboggling.

Are you talking about the French circa 1950 or in 2004? Of course, over here people only bather once a week, we still have to heat the hot water over coals?

Oh, no, I've known the f word for quite some time, I certainly never said the contrary. My use of profanity, in a highly sarcastic manner mocking the big anti-liberal-witch-hunt attitude, was a reaction to the profanity I read in previous posts on the thread, namely Trek's bitch quotes. I don't know which profanity you find sweeter to your ear, they're both "bad" words. Your Mom could tell you that.

Are you sure that you haven't been doing a lot of whining yourself? I wouldn't be so sure. When it's you talking, you call it constructive debating. When someone who does not agree with you is talking, it's whining. But hey, if it makes you feel better...

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Are you sure you don't want to check into your facts a little bit? You're going to tell me that France does nothing to help famine relief efforts? And if the aid is in other form than food, is that an inferior form of aid? If it's in actual physical aid, materials, medical supplies, medical care? Medecins sans frontieres is still going strong last time I made my donation...

I have never defended France as a perfect country. It has plenty of faults, and Jacques Chirac would never have been my choice for president. There are also some great things about this country.

And I don't defend the U.S. as a perfect country either. There are great things, and things that, well, aren't so great, kids. Just like here. Different issues, same problems.

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Actually, yesterday there was a group of women on the subway during my commute home from work, they had hairy armpits speaking French. So it still does go on.

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