any one tried sportlegs?

unclemuzza

Carl, unless you can back up your claims with an RCT published in a reputable peer reviewed research journal then there wont be too many people on this forum that will listen to you. That's the way science advances, slow and conservative yes, but also thorough, valid, reliable, reproducible and, not the least - safe. No one in their right mind would ingest something that hasn't been thoroughly researched and found to be safe and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one here that thinks that.
Your arguments rely on anecdotal reports from 'satisfied' users and, although interesting do not add anything to the pool of scientific knowledge. If you would care to come back to us with some hard evidence backed up by a randomised control trial (or two, but somehow I doubt you'll find the funding for this) then you may gain some credibility from the community. Care to accept that challenge?.

regards

Muzza

SportLegs

Muzza, thank you for your invitation. We’ve set our sights on presentation(s) at the ACSM Annual Meeting next June.

If you truly are representative of the audience here, we apologize. We mistook you for a more curious bunch, who might appreciate a competitive edge that can also reduce your ibuprofen habit, a year or so before it’s common knowledge.

And we certainly agree you shouldn’t ingest anything that hasn’t been thoroughly researched and found to be safe. Our two ingredients have been exhaustively researched and concluded to be “Generally Recognized As Safe” by the United States Food and Drug Administration for the last twenty years.

If that isn’t safe enough for you, leave the training wheels on your bike. And definitely avoid scarier stuff like ibuprofen or warm beer.

And Ric, we agree the trials of polylactates to date have been equivocal at best. Yet Lance Armstrong mentions he’s a Cytomax fan in his first book. Doesn’t seem to have slowed him down much. So while it’s certainly prudent to discount anecdotal evidence, it may be equally imprudent to dismiss it.

Best,

Carl

ric_stern/RST

Are you saying that we should avoid your stuff and buy Cytomax instead? at least that has carbs and electrolytes in it.

ric

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Roadie_scum

My ibuprofen habit??!??!?!??!?!???!?

I'm jonesing for some NSAIDS, oh yeah!



I will grant that selling an inert substance does increase the chance that it is safe, but there is a (very) remote chance your product is not inert, in which case further clinical trials would be needed to verify how to use it correctly and safely.

SportLegs

Our dictionary defines “inert” as “displaying no chemical activity.” But you’re no doubt aware calcium and magnesium facilitate a host of biochemical activities. And it was UC Berkeley’s George Brooks, the patent-holder for Cytomax, who identified lactate’s unmatched role in promoting intra- and intercellular energy transfer twenty years ago. George took a lot of flak for his revolutionary “lactate shuttle” theory back then, but you’ll read it as accepted theory in current Exercise Physiology texts.

So Roadie, in describing SportLegs’ ingredients, instead of “inert”, I think the least-flattering adjective you’re searching for is “benign”, defined as “1. Having a kind disposition; gentle. 2: Tending to promote well-being; beneficial.”

The distinction may rival that between the emu and the ostrich; perhaps even that between South Wales and New South Wales. Thanks to you exceedingly educated chaps for setting us straight.

Oh, and how to use SportLegs correctly? We generally recommend orally.

ric_stern/RST

maybe if you contributed to the forum in some other way, rather than just spamming us with your anecdotal stories, you may be more accepted. there's nothing wrong with having a commercial presence.

however, as you neither supply any useful info, such as how you're product may work with some of the underlying physiology and biochemistry, *nor contribute to any other thread*, then you can't be considered anything more than "spam".

Rather than purchasing some SL which isn't proven to work (yet), and if you people really want to help 'neutralise' the "lactic acid burn" then you can pop down to your local chemist (or similar) and purchase some sodium bicarbonate. Bicarb loading is proven in quite a few studies to increase performance, and decrease the lactate produced. it's dirt cheap. there are some side effects of it, as some people do suffer GI problems, but as with most things in life you don't get a "free lunch". If you do try some bicarb loading you need 0.3g per kg body mass, and take about an hour or so prior to very heavy exercise. for e.g., if you have a mass of 70 kg then you'll need 21 grams of bicarb.

and remember folks, bicarb is proven on the other hand polylactes aren't. if you're going to try any, i'd suggest cytomax, as it least it has carbs and electrolytes in and they _do_ increase performance.

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Induray

It's 2005.....What happened to Sportsleg and its "research"????

Interesting thread

bikerwannabee

Yeah, I'm also interested in what happened to this product? Bicycling mag had a small but favourable article on sport legs.

FrankBattle

I too saw the Bicycling mag snippet. Bought some. Used it for the first time yesterday. Works, for me, exactly as advertised.

May be placebo effect. As with whatever we decide to do to our diets/bodies, YMMV.

patch70

Should be a little suspicious of the fact that you have only two posts to your name at the time of this posting? Spammer perhaps?

mitosis

[QUOTE=Geoman]

You, of course, had your same body do the same courses at the same time under the same conditions without the pills so you could conclude that the product worked?

FrankBattle

Perhaps I am. Whatever the case really is, just wanted to share my experiences .. Not making any claims other than what happened in my case.

mitosis

The only ostriches in Australia are imported from Africa. Even there they don't bury their heads in the sand - its a myth.

ric_stern/RST

It still looks like complete rubbish to me. with no double-blind, randomised, placebo, crossover study it would have to have huge effects for me to be interested. as it is, the double-blind, randomised, placebo, crossover studies on polylactates are equivocal at best.

ric

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