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VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
was it up the final part of the climb?

LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
and Valverde can really descend fast.

On Jun 13, 1:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> and Valverde can really descend fast.

"I suck at bike racing and hate people who are good at it."

On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> and Valverde can really descend fast.

Ummm, okay.

Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour
de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for
ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å
vinne og
han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min
egen
tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen,
Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt
og jeg
tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker
øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of
fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se
Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved
den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle
ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er
annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia
og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort.

R

"My plans to suck wheels to stage race victory have taken a bit a
hit."

On Jun 13, 1:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> and Valverde can really descend fast.

He's frustrated, seeing 2nd place slip away. He didn't like Cadel
towing Valverde up the mountain, wanted him to attack Valverde instead
of him (Leipheimer). It's a fine distinction, seems to me that moving
from 3rd to 2nd is a good move, and Cadel says he can't beat Valverde
anyway. At 34, Levi doesn't have a lot of time left to race at this
level. No shame in that, it's just reality and he's had a hell of a
run.

-Paul

On Jun 13, 2:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> > was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> > and Valverde can really descend fast.
>
> Ummm, okay.
>
> Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour
> de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for
> ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å
> vinne og
> han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min
> egen
> tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen,
> Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt
> og jeg
> tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker
> øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of
> fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se
> Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved
> den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle
> ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er
> annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia
> og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort.
>
> R

Are you Norwegian? I have relatives in Bergen.
-Paul

On Jun 13, 10:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> and Valverde can really descend fast.

After I retire, which is anytime now, I'm going to be a DS and you
will be able to hear me complaining this way live during the race.

-ilan

On Jun 13, 8:39 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 2:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> > > was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> > > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> > > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> > > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> > > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> > > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> > > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> > > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> > > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> > > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> > > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> > > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> > > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> > > and Valverde can really descend fast.
>
> > Ummm, okay.
>
> > Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour
> > de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for
> > ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å
> > vinne og
> > han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min
> > egen
> > tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen,
> > Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt
> > og jeg
> > tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker
> > øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of
> > fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se
> > Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved
> > den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle
> > ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er
> > annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia
> > og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort.
>
>
> Are you Norwegian? I have relatives in Bergen.

1). No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend from Bergen. Maybe she knows
your relatives? Is a relative?
3). No, Google's language tools take the credit.

Two of the three are true.

R

On Jun 13, 8:12 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 8:39 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 13, 2:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> > > > was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> > > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> > > > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> > > > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> > > > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> > > > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> > > > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> > > > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> > > > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> > > > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> > > > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> > > > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> > > > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> > > > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> > > > and Valverde can really descend fast.
>
> > > Ummm, okay.
>
> > > Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour
> > > de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for
> > > ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å
> > > vinne og
> > > han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min
> > > egen
> > > tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen,
> > > Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt
> > > og jeg
> > > tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker
> > > øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of
> > > fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se
> > > Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved
> > > den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle
> > > ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er
> > > annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia
> > > og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort.
>
> > Are you Norwegian? I have relatives in Bergen.
>
> 1). No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
> 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend from Bergen. Maybe she knows
> your relatives? Is a relative?
> 3). No, Google's language tools take the credit.
>
> Two of the three are true.
>
> R

OK, your translation and Google's are identical, so I'll bet on 3 and
2. Hope you got a chance to see Bergen, it's a beautiful city.
-Paul

On Jun 13, 11:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> > was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> > and Valverde can really descend fast.
>
> Ummm, okay.
>
> Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour
> de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for
> ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å
> vinne og
> han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake på min
> egen
> tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen,
> Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt
> og jeg
> tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker
> øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of
> fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se
> Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene. Ved
> den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle
> ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er
> annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia
> og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort.
>
> R

When I read that with a refugee's accent, that actually made some
sense!

The bit about dinner rolls was confusing.

Joseph

RicodJour wrote:
> 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend

Did you end up sleeping in the bath alone ?

On Jun 14, 1:11 am, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 8:12 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 13, 8:39 pm, "Paul G." <carb...@egine.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 13, 2:55 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 13, 4:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
>
> > > > > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit,how
> > > > > was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> > > > > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> > > > > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> > > > > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> > > > > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> > > > > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> > > > > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit andI
> > > > > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> > > > > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the Kingof
> > > > > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> > > > > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone.By
> > > > > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> > > > > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> > > > > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> > > > > and Valverde can really descend fast.
>
> > > > Ummm, okay.
>
> > > > Jeg kan ikke forstå hva Cadel gjorde. Folk som vinner Tour
> > > > de France ikke rase liker det. Han var bare gjør Alejandro jobb for
> > > > ham. Nå har han andre i stedet for en tredjedel. Du har to race for å
> > > > vinne og
> > > > han var ikke åpenbart gjør det. Jeg var clawing vei tilbake påmin
> > > > egen
> > > > tempo og jeg var nære, men med om lag en kilometer fra toppen,
> > > > Cadel begynte å trekke disse fyrene. Jeg har akkurat eksplodert litt
> > > > og jeg
> > > > tror jeg tapte rundt 30 sekunder. Den Joux-Plane slags rundstykker
> > > > øverst og det er en oppoverbakke delen etter King of
> > > > fjellet banneret. De hadde en liten gruppe går og jeg kunne se
> > > > Szmyd angripe. Det er alltid lettere i en gruppe enn å gå alene.Ved
> > > > den tiden jeg trykke ned, jeg kunne ikke se dem lenger. Jeg skulle
> > > > ganske raskt, men når du ved deg selv på den ned, det er
> > > > annerledes. Jeg vet ikke som var ledende i denne gruppen, men Zubeldia
> > > > og Valverde virkelig kan stige fort.
>
> > > Are you Norwegian? I have relatives in Bergen.
>
> > 1). No, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.
> > 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend from Bergen. Maybe she knows
> > your relatives? Is a relative?
> > 3). No, Google's language tools take the credit.
>
> > Two of the three are true.
>
> OK, your translation and Google's are identical, so I'll bet on 3 and
> 2. Hope you got a chance to see Bergen, it's a beautiful city.

I'm still hoping!

R

On Jun 14, 4:55 am, Donald Munro <fat-dumb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
> > 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend
>
> Did you end up sleeping in the bath alone ?

I heard a whooshing sound so I know something went right over my head.
To paraphrase: "Huh?"

R

RicodJour schreef:
> Donald Munro wrote:
>> RicodJour wrote:
>>> 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend
>> Did you end up sleeping in the bath alone ?
>
> I heard a whooshing sound so I know something went right over my head.
> To paraphrase: "Huh?"

Barbarian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaNQjhXhfVs

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:26:07 GMT, John Forrest Tomlinson
<usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:08:29 +0200, Ted van de Weteringe
><myfullname@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote:
>
>>RicodJour schreef:
>>> I heard a whooshing sound so I know something went right over my head.
>>> To paraphrase: "Huh?"
>>
>>Barbarian.
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaNQjhXhfVs
>
>Whoa. Those Beatles were some messed up dudes.

Dopers too.

On Jun 14, 11:08 am, Ted van de Weteringe
<myfulln...@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote:
> RicodJour schreef:
>
> > Donald Munro wrote:
> >> RicodJour wrote:
> >>> 2). No, but I had a Norwegian girlfriend
> >> Did you end up sleeping in the bath alone ?
>
> > I heard a whooshing sound so I know something went right over my head.
> > To paraphrase: "Huh?"
>
> Barbarian.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaNQjhXhfVs

I make it a point never to try to understand the words in songs.
Especially from those newer wrapper bands.

It was very interesting to see the biggest band in the world get into
a station wagon to leave the stadium. What did the smaller bands use
for getaway vehicles - bicycles?

R

On Jun 13, 10:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> and Valverde can really descend fast.

Since being denied the Tour de France, he was focusing his season on
winning the Dauphine, but that fell through after the invitation to
the Giro and Contador's performance there. Now he's just venting.

-ilan

On Jun 14, 2:46 pm, ilan...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 13, 10:32 pm, "brian_j_r...@yahoo.com" <brian_j_r...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > VN: Evans said he attacked when he saw you suffering a little bit, how
> > was it up the final part of the climb?
>
> > LL: I don’t understand what Cadel was doing. People who win the Tour
> > de France don’t race like that. He was just doing Alejandro’s job for
> > him. Now he has second instead of third. You have to race to win and
> > he wasn’t obviously doing that. I was clawing my way back at my own
> > pace and I was close, but with about one kilometer from the summit,
> > Cadel started to pull those guys. I just exploded a little bit and I
> > think I lost about 30 seconds there. The Joux-Plane kind of rolls
> > across the top and there’s another uphill section after the King of
> > the Mountain banner. They had a little group going and I could see
> > Szmyd attacking. It’s always easier in a group than going alone. By
> > the time I hit the descent, I couldn’t see them anymore. I was going
> > pretty fast, but when you’re by yourself on the descent, it’s
> > different. I don’t know who was leading in that group, but Zubeldia
> > and Valverde can really descend fast.
>
> Since being denied the Tour de France, he was focusing his season on
> winning the Dauphine, but that fell through after the invitation to
> the Giro and Contador's performance there. Now he's just venting.

But there's still the Vuelta...oh. Never mind.

R

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:26:07 GMT, John Forrest Tomlinson
> <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:08:29 +0200, Ted van de Weteringe
>> <myfullname@xs4all.nl.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> RicodJour schreef:
>>>> I heard a whooshing sound so I know something went right over my head.
>>>> To paraphrase: "Huh?"
>>> Barbarian.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaNQjhXhfVs
>> Whoa. Those Beatles were some messed up dudes.
>
> Dopers too.
>

No, Dope wasn't invented until the mid-nineties. That's how we know Greg
Lemond was clean.

On Jun 14, 8:34 pm, Fred Fredburger
<FredFredbur...@Where.Are.The.Nachos> wrote:

>
> No, Dope wasn't invented until the mid-nineties. That's how we know Greg
> Lemond was clean.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I thought it was because he's the cycling second coming and said so.
Goes well with his many spectral Tour victories. Of course he won more
than Lance he just wasn't there for some of them, and did it all on
pure spirit alone.
Bill C