If I were to promote the benefits of biking, I'd put a lady

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If I were to promote the benefits of biking, I'd put a lady like this
to ride around town...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX6MtWRGW3M&feature=related

No speeches about Global Warming or Road Safety would be necessary.

Actually, she could advertise my T-shirts too...

http://www.zazzle.com/bike_for_peace_ii_shirt-235363034463138037

On 2 May, 14:46, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If I were to promote the benefits of biking, I'd put a lady like this
> to ride around town...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX6MtWRGW3M&feature=related
>
> No speeches about Global Warming or Road Safety would be necessary.
>
> Actually, she could advertise my T-shirts too...
>
> http://www.zazzle.com/bike_for_peace_ii_shirt-235363034463138037

I think I could attract ladys to cycling by having a photo of me, 8
stone in weight, sat eating a sausage butty followed by a large
chocolate bar!

On May 2, 9:46 am, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If I were to promote the benefits of biking, I'd put a lady like this
> to ride around town...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX6MtWRGW3M&feature=related

Kinda like this?

http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf

On May 2, 12:08 pm, Nat <nata...@fyne.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2 May, 14:46, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > If I were to promote the benefits of biking, I'd put a lady like this
> > to ride around town...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX6MtWRGW3M&feature=related
>
> > No speeches about Global Warming or Road Safety would be necessary.
>
> > Actually, she could advertise my T-shirts too...
>
> >http://www.zazzle.com/bike_for_peace_ii_shirt-235363034463138037
>
> I think I could attract ladys to cycling by having a photo of me, 8
> stone in weight, sat eating a sausage butty followed by a large
> chocolate bar!

And then you'd wear a t-shirt that said, "You can eat my sausage!!!"

On May 2, 1:04 pm, "victor....@gmail.com" <victor....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On May 2, 9:46 am, ComandanteBanana <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > If I were to promote the benefits of biking, I'd put a lady like this
> > to ride around town...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX6MtWRGW3M&feature=related
>
> Kinda like this?
>
> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf

I can already read the promotion: "Put something fun between your
legs"... (the bike)

http://www.sexydeanna.com/samples/deanna033_052.jpg

Tom Sherman schrieb:
> Jym Dyer wrote:
>> =v= In response to a rather nice advert:
>>
>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf
>>
> It is nice to see that someone is sensible enough to realize that a foam
> bicycle hat is NOT necessary for utility cycling.

Of course it isn't. Only MDs, helmet producers and politicians say so.

> Oh wait, the much more
> safety conscious northern Europeans (relative to USians) generally do
> not wear the foam hats while cycling,

Exactly. Apart from some politicians when the press is there. "Because
of the kids", you know ...

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:

> Jym Dyer wrote:
> > =v= In response to a rather nice advert:
> > http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf
> >
> It is nice to see that someone is sensible enough to realize that a
> foam bicycle hat is NOT necessary for utility cycling. Oh wait, the
> much more safety conscious northern Europeans (relative to USians)
> generally do not wear the foam hats while cycling, except for the
> racer types.

When I looked at the PDF file, it showed some sort of screen snapshot
with large black areas and some tiny yellow icons. It was completely
meaningless. Maybe there was something my PDF viewer didn't recognize,
but nothing I saw had anything to do with helmets.

Is Sherman imagining things or just ranting?

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Jym Dyer wrote:
>>> =v= In response to a rather nice advert:
>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf
>>>
>> It is nice to see that someone is sensible enough to realize that a
>> foam bicycle hat is NOT necessary for utility cycling. Oh wait, the
>> much more safety conscious northern Europeans (relative to USians)
>> generally do not wear the foam hats while cycling, except for the
>> racer types.
>
> When I looked at the PDF file, it showed some sort of screen snapshot
> with large black areas and some tiny yellow icons. It was completely
> meaningless. Maybe there was something my PDF viewer didn't recognize,
> but nothing I saw had anything to do with helmets.
>
> Is Sherman imagining things or just ranting?
>
Yo Zaumem - Victor Kan posted the link and Jym Dyer commented on it. Are
they just ranting also? Sheesh!

When opening the link, you should get an Adobe® Clip Notes® video window
that plays a commercial for "The Spin Cycle" which is a bicycle shop in
Cary, NC. In the video, the woman cyclist featured is NOT wearing a foam
bicycle hat (but the Lycra® wearing roadie hitting on her is).

The link works in Firefox 2.0.0.14.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Tom Sherman schrieb:
> When opening the link, you should get an Adobe® Clip Notes® video window


Yes. It complains that no Windows Media Player is installed on my
system. What a surprise ...

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:

> Bill Zaumen wrote:
> > Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >> Jym Dyer wrote:
> >>> =v= In response to a rather nice advert:
> >>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf
> >>>
> >> It is nice to see that someone is sensible enough to realize that a
> >> foam bicycle hat is NOT necessary for utility cycling. Oh wait, the
> >> much more safety conscious northern Europeans (relative to USians)
> >> generally do not wear the foam hats while cycling, except for the
> >> racer types.
> > When I looked at the PDF file, it showed some sort of screen snapshot
> > with large black areas and some tiny yellow icons. It was completely
> > meaningless. Maybe there was something my PDF viewer didn't recognize,
> > but nothing I saw had anything to do with helmets.
> > Is Sherman imagining things or just ranting?
> >
> Yo Zaumem - Victor Kan posted the link and Jym Dyer commented on
> it. Are they just ranting also? Sheesh!

Don't know about Victor Kan (never having read his posts) but Jym Dyer,
unlike you, doesn't have an anti-helmet agenda.

> When opening the link, you should get an Adobe® Clip Notes® video
> window that plays a commercial for "The Spin Cycle" which is a bicycle
> shop in Cary, NC. In the video, the woman cyclist featured is NOT
> wearing a foam bicycle hat (but the Lycra® wearing roadie hitting on
> her is).
>
> The link works in Firefox 2.0.0.14.

I'm running the lastest firefox available on the particular Linux
distribution I'm using, and it starts "evince" as a PDF viewer. It
didn't show anything meaningful.


--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Jym Dyer wrote:
>>>>> =v= In response to a rather nice advert:
>>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf
>>>>>
>>>> It is nice to see that someone is sensible enough to realize that a
>>>> foam bicycle hat is NOT necessary for utility cycling. Oh wait, the
>>>> much more safety conscious northern Europeans (relative to USians)
>>>> generally do not wear the foam hats while cycling, except for the
>>>> racer types.
>>> When I looked at the PDF file, it showed some sort of screen snapshot
>>> with large black areas and some tiny yellow icons. It was completely
>>> meaningless. Maybe there was something my PDF viewer didn't recognize,
>>> but nothing I saw had anything to do with helmets.
>>> Is Sherman imagining things or just ranting?
>>>
>> Yo Zaumem - Victor Kan posted the link and Jym Dyer commented on
>> it. Are they just ranting also? Sheesh!
>
> Don't know about Victor Kan (never having read his posts) but Jym Dyer,
> unlike you, doesn't have an anti-helmet agenda.
>
Which has nothing at all to do whether a video link can be viewed on a
webpage, does it now?

I do not have an anti-helmet agenda, I have an anti-misinformation
agenda. Bicycle foam hats can provide useful bump and scrape protection.

>> When opening the link, you should get an Adobe® Clip Notes® video
>> window that plays a commercial for "The Spin Cycle" which is a bicycle
>> shop in Cary, NC. In the video, the woman cyclist featured is NOT
>> wearing a foam bicycle hat (but the Lycra® wearing roadie hitting on
>> her is).
>>
>> The link works in Firefox 2.0.0.14.
>
> I'm running the lastest firefox available on the particular Linux
> distribution I'm using, and it starts "evince" as a PDF viewer. It
> didn't show anything meaningful.
>
You are the computer expert with the best system - you tell me why the
link is not working. My guess [1] is that since it asks for Windows
Media Player, it may not be Linux compatible.

[1] n.b.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:

> Bill Zaumen wrote:
> > Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >> Bill Zaumen wrote:
> >>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Jym Dyer wrote:
> >>>>> =v= In response to a rather nice advert:
> >>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf
> >>>>>
> >>>> It is nice to see that someone is sensible enough to realize that a
> >>>> foam bicycle hat is NOT necessary for utility cycling. Oh wait, the
> >>>> much more safety conscious northern Europeans (relative to USians)
> >>>> generally do not wear the foam hats while cycling, except for the
> >>>> racer types.
> >>> When I looked at the PDF file, it showed some sort of screen snapshot
> >>> with large black areas and some tiny yellow icons. It was completely
> >>> meaningless. Maybe there was something my PDF viewer didn't recognize,
> >>> but nothing I saw had anything to do with helmets.
> >>> Is Sherman imagining things or just ranting?
> >>>
> >> Yo Zaumem - Victor Kan posted the link and Jym Dyer commented on
> >> it. Are they just ranting also? Sheesh!
> > Don't know about Victor Kan (never having read his posts) but Jym
> > Dyer,
> > unlike you, doesn't have an anti-helmet agenda.
> >
> Which has nothing at all to do whether a video link can be viewed on a
> webpage, does it now?

It has a lot to do with you just ranting as I said (listing that as a
possibility).
>
> I do not have an anti-helmet agenda, I have an anti-misinformation
> agenda. Bicycle foam hats can provide useful bump and scrape
> protection.

Oh please.


> > I'm running the lastest firefox available on the particular Linux
> > distribution I'm using, and it starts "evince" as a PDF viewer. It
> > didn't show anything meaningful.
> >
> You are the computer expert with the best system - you tell me why the
> link is not working. My guess [1] is that since it asks for Windows
> Media Player, it may not be Linux compatible.

This may surprise you, but I have better things to do with my time than
try to figure out what went wrong with something claiming to be a
PDF file (and my PDF viewer did not ask for Windows Media Player or an
equivalent).

It is well known that Adobe has been fiddling with new version of PDF
for (I presume) business reasons and has recently purchased
Macromedia, and it wouldn't be surprising if working towards
integrating these two products is part of the reason for the frequent
revisions. Frankly, I'm not interested. It's merely a business
thing.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Bill Zaumen wrote:
>>>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jym Dyer wrote:
>>>>>>> =v= In response to a rather nice advert:
>>>>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is nice to see that someone is sensible enough to realize that a
>>>>>> foam bicycle hat is NOT necessary for utility cycling. Oh wait, the
>>>>>> much more safety conscious northern Europeans (relative to USians)
>>>>>> generally do not wear the foam hats while cycling, except for the
>>>>>> racer types.
>>>>> When I looked at the PDF file, it showed some sort of screen snapshot
>>>>> with large black areas and some tiny yellow icons. It was completely
>>>>> meaningless. Maybe there was something my PDF viewer didn't recognize,
>>>>> but nothing I saw had anything to do with helmets.
>>>>> Is Sherman imagining things or just ranting?
>>>>>
>>>> Yo Zaumem - Victor Kan posted the link and Jym Dyer commented on
>>>> it. Are they just ranting also? Sheesh!
>>> Don't know about Victor Kan (never having read his posts) but Jym
>>> Dyer,
>>> unlike you, doesn't have an anti-helmet agenda.
>>>
>> Which has nothing at all to do whether a video link can be viewed on a
>> webpage, does it now?
>
> It has a lot to do with you just ranting as I said (listing that as a
> possibility).

Oh please yourself. WTF does my alleged agenda have to do with someone
not being able to view a video clip on a posted link? That is sub Mikey
V. logic. Sheesh!

>> I do not have an anti-helmet agenda, I have an anti-misinformation
>> agenda. Bicycle foam hats can provide useful bump and scrape
>> protection.
>
> Oh please.
>
So despite all the properly performed population studies revealing NO
benefit to h*lm*t use in reducing severe head injuries and deaths with
increased bicycle foam hat use, you still imagine that lids have magical
protective properties?

>>> I'm running the lastest firefox available on the particular Linux
>>> distribution I'm using, and it starts "evince" as a PDF viewer. It
>>> didn't show anything meaningful.
>>>
>> You are the computer expert with the best system - you tell me why the
>> link is not working. My guess [1] is that since it asks for Windows
>> Media Player, it may not be Linux compatible.
>
> This may surprise you, but I have better things to do with my time than
> try to figure out what went wrong with something claiming to be a
> PDF file (and my PDF viewer did not ask for Windows Media Player or an
> equivalent).
>
> It is well known that Adobe has been fiddling with new version of PDF
> for (I presume) business reasons and has recently purchased
> Macromedia, and it wouldn't be surprising if working towards
> integrating these two products is part of the reason for the frequent
> revisions.

Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?

> Frankly, I'm not interested. It's merely a business thing.
>
No, its an evil plot by the anti-helmet zealots to confound the Liddites!!!

So far it has worked well on Zaumen. :)

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:

> Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote:

(Infantile name calling from an idiot.)

> > Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
> >
> >> Which has nothing at all to do whether a video link can be viewed on a
> >> webpage, does it now?
> > It has a lot to do with you just ranting as I said (listing that as a
> > possibility).
>
> Oh please yourself. WTF does my alleged agenda have to do with someone
> not being able to view a video clip on a posted link? That is sub
> Mikey V. logic. Sheesh!

When you use terms like "foam hats", your agenda is pretty damn obvious.

> >> I do not have an anti-helmet agenda, I have an anti-misinformation
> >> agenda. Bicycle foam hats can provide useful bump and scrape
> >> protection.
> > Oh please.
> >
> So despite all the properly performed population studies revealing NO
> benefit to h*lm*t use in reducing severe head injuries and deaths with
> increased bicycle foam hat use, you still imagine that lids have
> magical protective properties?

"Lids", "magical protective properties" (that I never mentioned)? Yep,
saying you have an agenda is pretty damn accurate. If you don't want
to give that impression, you should cut out the loaded language.

> > It is well known that Adobe has been fiddling with new version of PDF
> > for (I presume) business reasons and has recently purchased
> > Macromedia, and it wouldn't be surprising if working towards
> > integrating these two products is part of the reason for the frequent
> > revisions.
>
> Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?

The file's extension ended in .pdf, so ...
>
> > Frankly, I'm not interested. It's merely a business thing.
> >
> No, its an evil plot by the anti-helmet zealots to confound the Liddites!!!
>
> So far it has worked well on Zaumen. :)

Sherman, you are a complete and utter idiot - its the only term that
describes what one would assume from your posts.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Liddite Bill Zaumen wrote:
>
> (Infantile name calling from an idiot.)
>
Merely an accurate description, no?

>>> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Which has nothing at all to do whether a video link can be viewed on a
>>>> webpage, does it now?
>>> It has a lot to do with you just ranting as I said (listing that as a
>>> possibility).
>> Oh please yourself. WTF does my alleged agenda have to do with someone
>> not being able to view a video clip on a posted link? That is sub
>> Mikey V. logic. Sheesh!
>
> When you use terms like "foam hats", your agenda is pretty damn obvious.
>
butbutbut, the items in questions are hats made from foam!!!

>>>> I do not have an anti-helmet agenda, I have an anti-misinformation
>>>> agenda. Bicycle foam hats can provide useful bump and scrape
>>>> protection.
>>> Oh please.
>>>
>> So despite all the properly performed population studies revealing NO
>> benefit to h*lm*t use in reducing severe head injuries and deaths with
>> increased bicycle foam hat use, you still imagine that lids have
>> magical protective properties?
>
> "Lids", "magical protective properties" (that I never mentioned)? Yep,
> saying you have an agenda is pretty damn accurate. If you don't want
> to give that impression, you should cut out the loaded language.
>
Well, the alleged protective qualities of bicycle foam hats must be
magical, since there is no rational explanation.

>>> It is well known that Adobe has been fiddling with new version of PDF
>>> for (I presume) business reasons and has recently purchased
>>> Macromedia, and it wouldn't be surprising if working towards
>>> integrating these two products is part of the reason for the frequent
>>> revisions.
>> Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?
>
> The file's extension ended in .pdf, so ...

And...

>>> Frankly, I'm not interested. It's merely a business thing.
>>>
>> No, its an evil plot by the anti-helmet zealots to confound the Liddites!!!
>>
>> So far it has worked well on Zaumen. :)
>
> Sherman, you are a complete and utter idiot - its the only term that
> describes what one would assume from your posts.
>
I see Zaumen does not react well to disagreement. ;)

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:


> >>>>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf

> Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?

Oh, just to show what a fool Tom Sherman is, I used a program I have
that prints the HTTP response headers. Here's what you get:

Status: 200 OK
....
Content-Type: application/pdf
....
Content-Length: 2090466

Note the Content-Type header - it claims the file is a PDF file. The
extension ".pdf" is the extension normally used by a PDF file. So,
do you think it is surprising that my browser would try to open it
as a PDF file?

Nothing about some special "Adobe® Clip Notes®" format was given.


--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

Bill Zaumen wrote:
> Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf
>
>> Adobe® Clip Notes® as I posted above?
>
> Oh, just to show what a fool Tom Sherman is, I used a program I have
> that prints the HTTP response headers. Here's what you get:
>
> Status: 200 OK
> ...
> Content-Type: application/pdf
> ...
> Content-Length: 2090466
>
> Note the Content-Type header - it claims the file is a PDF file. The
> extension ".pdf" is the extension normally used by a PDF file. So,
> do you think it is surprising that my browser would try to open it
> as a PDF file?
>
> Nothing about some special "Adobe® Clip Notes®" format was given.
>
Yo Zaumen,

My browser also opens the link as a PDF.

When I go to the link, it says "Adobe® Clip Notes®" right above the
black box displayed on the page.

Furthermore, the dialog box that appears says, "This PDF uses Adobe Clip
Notes technology to allow you to review a movie and to add comments...."

Then player controls and a box to allow review comments appears below
the "black box" that allows one to play the video clip.

To bad computer expert Zaumen can not get his computer to work with the
web page, so he would not look like a fool for calling me a fool, since
everyone else who opens the page can clearly see the evidence of Adobe®
Clip Notes® being used on the page.

So who is the fool here?

Better luck next time. ;)

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On May 3, 11:06 pm, nob...@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote:
>
>
> When you use terms like "foam hats", your agenda is pretty damn obvious.
> ...
>
> "Lids", "magical protective properties" ... If you don't want
> to give that impression, you should cut out the loaded language.

Or in other words: Tom, stop thy blaspheming! Thou shalt use only
the proper, sacred language when referring to the revered headpiece!

Likewise, thou shalt not use science to examine the effects of the
revered head covering! Such is the way of the devil, you heretic!

;-)

- Frank Krygowski

frkrygow@gmail.com aka Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On May 3, 11:06 pm, nob...@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote:
>>
>> When you use terms like "foam hats", your agenda is pretty damn obvious.
>> ...
>>
>> "Lids", "magical protective properties" ... If you don't want
>> to give that impression, you should cut out the loaded language.
>
> Or in other words: Tom, stop thy blaspheming! Thou shalt use only
> the proper, sacred language when referring to the revered headpiece!
>
> Likewise, thou shalt not use science to examine the effects of the
> revered head covering! Such is the way of the devil, you heretic!
>
butbutbut, it is fun to have the Liddites foam at the mouth! :)

It is refreshing to see a US bicycle dealer promote utility cycling,
showing someone without a foam hat and a load of groceries:
<http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf> [1]. However,
the "hi... hi" dialog is beyond cheesy.

[1] Link may not work for Linux or Mac users.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Tom Sherman wrote:

> It is refreshing to see a US bicycle dealer promote utility cycling,
> showing someone without a foam hat and a load of groceries:
> <http://www.thespincycle.com/files/2006LoriCommercial.pdf> [1]. However,
> the "hi... hi" dialog is beyond cheesy.
>
> [1] Link may not work for Linux or Mac users.
>

Nor for those of us who refuse to use the bloated, invasive,
security-challenged Adobe Reader (as opposed, say, to Foxit).

--
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