BREAKING NEWS: ASTANA & HIGH ROAD BANNED FROM GIRO !!!!

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From cyclyingfansanonymous:

At the Paceline forums (http://www.thepaceline.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=26215), the anger over Astana's rejection from the Giro is overflowing. Many former Disco-turned-Astana fans say that if the trend continues and Astana is not invited to the Tour, that they will give up and just not watch the Tour at all. Versus channel head honchos cannot be too pleased to hear that sort of sentiment. It is also clear that some percentage of the American fans who supported Disco have simply transferred their allegiance to Astana, and have not necessarily switched to supporting Slipstream as the main "American" team.

We need to get a mole over there on paceline to report on those guys. It has to be funnier than DPF. I am not sure I want to sully myself by signing up though.

Go for it Bro and get sullied. Undercover psy-ops are your true metier.

LOL. Get his. Bruyneel is now complaining about IPCT members possibly going back on an agreement. Anyone think he'll live up to the previous agreement and get rid of Cantador?

"Above all, we hope, for the Tour of Italy as well as for cycling in general, that the Giro can go on. All IPCT members decided in their General Assembly of January 17th not to participate in races where Pro-continental teams start, if their riders do not have a biological passport."They do have a point though regarding these biological passports. You can't have some of the teams in the race having to have them and the Pro-cont teams in the same race not needing to have them.

Just another shmozzle.

They do have a point though regarding these biological passports. You can't have some of the teams in the race having to have them and the Pro-cont teams in the same race not needing to have them.

Just another shmozzle.
Claudio Chiapucci thinks the same thing:

"Cycling is in a confusing time. A biological passport has been invented to combat doping and will be only applied to the Pro Tour riders, yet cyclists who are not in the first division do not need this document! Nowadays, nobody understands anything in cycling."

From cyclyingfansanonymous:

At the Paceline forums (http://www.thepaceline.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=26215), the anger over Astana's rejection from the Giro is overflowing. Many former Disco-turned-Astana fans say that if the trend continues and Astana is not invited to the Tour, that they will give up and just not watch the Tour at all. Versus channel head honchos cannot be too pleased to hear that sort of sentiment. It is also clear that some percentage of the American fans who supported Disco have simply transferred their allegiance to Astana, and have not necessarily switched to supporting Slipstream as the main "American" team.

We need to get a mole over there on paceline to report on those guys. It has to be funnier than DPF. I am not sure I want to sully myself by signing up though.
I was threatened on an Australian forum for saying Armstrong was a doper, and he said he would contact authorities, and tell everyone on the Paceline, and get them as his virtual goon squad to come and attack me.

Paceline = wankers except for Pugdog.

I was threatened on an Australian forum for saying Armstrong was a doper, and he said he would contact authorities, and tell everyone on the Paceline, and get them as his virtual goon squad to come and attack me.

Paceline = wankers except for Pugdog.
That settles it. I have to go over there. And I'll have to start that "other forum follies" thread here I mentioned a while a ago.

That settles it. I have to go over there. And I'll have to start that "other forum follies" thread here I mentioned a while a ago.Sounds like you may as well break into Scientology headquarters and yell "L. Ron Hubbard's a wanker!!!" as go into Paceline and take pot shots at Lance.

I'll be watching from the wings...:cool: ;)

From cyclyingfansanonymous:

At the Paceline forums (http://www.thepaceline.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=26215), the anger over Astana's rejection from the Giro is overflowing. Many former Disco-turned-Astana fans say that if the trend continues and Astana is not invited to the Tour, that they will give up and just not watch the Tour at all. Versus channel head honchos cannot be too pleased to hear that sort of sentiment. It is also clear that some percentage of the American fans who supported Disco have simply transferred their allegiance to Astana, and have not necessarily switched to supporting Slipstream as the main "American" team.

We need to get a mole over there on paceline to report on those guys. It has to be funnier than DPF. I am not sure I want to sully myself by signing up though.Ok, how many people give a hoot about whether these characters watch the Tour or not? :rolleyes:

Bro, you should start your follies from other forums thread.

I was threatened on an Australian forum for saying Armstrong was a doper, and he said he would contact authorities, and tell everyone on the Paceline, and get them as his virtual goon squad to come and attack me.

Paceline = wankers except for Pugdog.Thats why I love this forum... we all know Lance was a doper and if he did try and come on this forum and give us the heavy he'd know he'd have to deal with me... so he stays away.

Lance = wanker.

High Road could still get a Giro spot. No chance for Astana:

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/article.php

Also everyone needs to vote in the poll on the lower left. The paceline guys have already mobilized their forces to skew the vote.

High Road could still get a Giro spot. No chance for Astana:

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/article.php

Also everyone needs to vote in the poll on the lower left. The paceline guys have already mobilized their forces to skew the vote.Jesus Christ what's happened to the Hog ? He's gone limp on us...... he must have said this through gritted teeth...I mean its like Bush saying he wants to work with Al Qaeda.... Bruyneel and clean just doesn't wash.....I also note from the article that RCS don't want any team with Kloden on it..... Kloden G-O-N-E !:

“...The coming weeks, we will prove that we still have our place in all big cycling events. Fortunately, my sponsors confirmed their unconditional support. With their support, we started building a new team in a clean environment. We will continue on that way. I hope, for cycling in general, that the sponsors of the other non-selected teams react in the same way."

Nope still no discussion about those other teams that are more shocking...even after Cranky commented. Not that this forum is obsessed with certain people.

Jesus Christ what's happened to the Hog ? He's gone limp on us...... he must have said this through gritted teeth...I mean its like Bush saying he wants to work with Al Qaeda.... Bruyneel and clean just doesn't wash.....I also note from the article that RCS don't want any team with Kloden on it..... Kloden G-O-N-E !:

“...The coming weeks, we will prove that we still have our place in all big cycling events. Fortunately, my sponsors confirmed their unconditional support. With their support, we started building a new team in a clean environment. We will continue on that way. I hope, for cycling in general, that the sponsors of the other non-selected teams react in the same way."Whatever anyone feels about certain teams and people... and about them getting their comeuppance... this is a very disturbing situation for sponsors... in an environment that is already risky for them regarding doping. To not know if you are going to be invited to major races... or to not be invited as a Pro tour team, when other pro-conti teams have been, as is the situation here for four teams.. just further reduces the attractiveness of cycling as a sponsorship vehicle (irrespective of the rationales). It doesn't happen in other sports very often, that you are relying on invites to major events, decided arbitrarily behind closed doors..

Nope still no discussion about those other teams that are more shocking...even after Cranky commented. Not that this forum is obsessed with certain people.
Lim?

what is your deletion policy?

I also note from the article that RCS don't want any team with Kloden on it..... Kloden G-O-N-E !:BTW, is there a reason why they are so keen on not having Kloeden as opposed to other suspected dopers?

From cyclyingfansanonymous:

At the Paceline forums (http://www.thepaceline.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=26215), the anger over Astana's rejection from the Giro is overflowing. Many former Disco-turned-Astana fans say that if the trend continues and Astana is not invited to the Tour, that they will give up and just not watch the Tour at all. Versus channel head honchos cannot be too pleased to hear that sort of sentiment. It is also clear that some percentage of the American fans who supported Disco have simply transferred their allegiance to Astana, and have not necessarily switched to supporting Slipstream as the main "American" team.

We need to get a mole over there on paceline to report on those guys. It has to be funnier than DPF. I am not sure I want to sully myself by signing up though.Bro, no offense buddy, but isn't it too easy? I mean, isn't that kind of like making fun of the handicapped kid at school?

Not really playing on an even playing field that way, going into a fan-based, group-think website.

I'm just sayin' . . . sometimes in life I have really good come-backs. I start to open my mouth (or type as the case may be) and then I realize, why bother? There's no competition there so it's just wasted energy. No fun for me that way.

But hey, maybe you and I differ in our perspective as to what's a fun fight. :D

Whatever anyone feels about certain teams and people... and about them getting their comeuppance... this is a very disturbing situation for sponsors... in an environment that is already risky for them regarding doping. To not know if you are going to be invited to major races... or to not be invited as a Pro tour team, when other pro-conti teams have been, as is the situation here for four teams.. just further reduces the attractiveness of cycling as a sponsorship vehicle (irrespective of the rationales). It doesn't happen in other sports very often, that you are relying on invites to major events, decided arbitrarily behind closed doors..
Yep, very true Cranky. The continual uncertainty, back and forth and such does nothing but hurt the sport in many different ways, as people have pointed out here . . . turning fans off . . . . negative economic repurcussions through sponsorship struggles, etc. . . . .

Nope still no discussion about those other teams that are more shocking...even after Cranky commented. Not that this forum is obsessed with certain people.
Just like every other cycling forum. I've come to realize that the obsession with LA is universal in cycling really . . . just depends on which side of the obsession you fall . . . but they're both equally strong obsessions in the end. ;)

Bro, no offense buddy, but isn't it too easy? I mean, isn't that kind of like making fun of the handicapped kid at school?

Not really playing on an even playing field that way, going into a fan-based, group-think website.
I actually concluded that when I went over there, which is the first time I've been there. The group think makes the site uninteresting.

I actually concluded that when I went over there, which is the first time I've been there. The group think makes the site uninteresting.Not only that, but they sound quite young, or maybe better stated not adults.