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I have never seen a more off-topic newsgroup where contributors
indulge in explicit inter-personal sniping, denigrating innuendo and
motor-mouthed braggadocio. Having just bought a recumbent trike, I
hope this syndrom is confined to two-wheel recumbents or is not
catching.

"Mike Fox" <mikefox@Junoo.com> wrote in message
news:jam0q3lrn4g1d5uvbkbcte9sqgn6bsi88b@4ax.com...
>I have never seen a more off-topic newsgroup where contributors
> indulge in explicit inter-personal sniping, denigrating innuendo and
> motor-mouthed braggadocio. Having just bought a recumbent trike, I
> hope this syndrom is confined to two-wheel recumbents or is not
> catching.

Howdy Mike. What kind of trike did you buy? The best way to keep the place
going IS to write about our bents and ignore the messages with all dung
attached. So ignore the schmucks and don't let the crap get to you.

I have a Trice QNT and a couple of other bents too. Except for trainer duty,
I haven't ridden my Speedmachine or Sunset at all last year since I bought
the Trice.Maybe this year, I'll get in the habit of switching rides and get
lots of miles on all of them.
gotbent aka FRVT Rider



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In message <jam0q3lrn4g1d5uvbkbcte9sqgn6bsi88b@4ax.com>
Mike Fox <mikefox@Junoo.com> wrote:

> Having just bought a recumbent trike,

[snip]

What did you buy and what influenced your choices?
--
Charles
Brompton P6R-Plus; CarryFreedom -YL, in Motspur Park
LCC; CTC.

Got a Catrike ROAD because of quality, cost, and made in the USA.
Mike

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:18:38 GMT, charlesA@TbarraballD.OTcom wrote:

>In message <jam0q3lrn4g1d5uvbkbcte9sqgn6bsi88b@4ax.com>
> Mike Fox <mikefox@Junoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Having just bought a recumbent trike,
>
>[snip]
>
>What did you buy and what influenced your choices?

Mike Fox wrote:
> Got a Catrike ROAD because of quality, cost, and made in the USA.
> Mike

Meow. ;)

Certainly, the devalued dollar has made buying an imported trike much
less attractive for USians. That being said, it is good to see
semi-affordable quality trikes being made without defacto slave labor.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth

Wilson Warmouth wrote:
>
> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fntsfc$pf9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Mike Fox wrote:
>>> Got a Catrike ROAD because of quality, cost, and made in the USA.
>>> Mike
>>
>> Meow. ;)
>>
>> Certainly, the devalued dollar has made buying an imported trike much
>> less attractive for USians. That being said, it is good to see
>> semi-affordable quality trikes being made without defacto slave labor.
>>
>> --
>> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
>
> And that being said it's good to see you postulate that semi-affordable
> quality products can be made in the USA without defacto slave labor.
> Unless of course some gadfly has fraudulently posted this under your name.
>
I doubt that Paulo Camasmie is making anything more than a modest middle
class living off the company, unlike corporate executives who are
compensated many orders of magnitude more than their positive
contribution to society.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fntsfc$pf9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Mike Fox wrote:
>> Got a Catrike ROAD because of quality, cost, and made in the USA.
>> Mike
>
> Meow. ;)
>
> Certainly, the devalued dollar has made buying an imported trike much less
> attractive for USians. That being said, it is good to see semi-affordable
> quality trikes being made without defacto slave labor.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia

And that being said it's good to see you postulate that semi-affordable
quality products can be made in the USA without defacto slave labor. Unless
of course some gadfly has fraudulently posted this under your name.

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fntsfc$pf9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Mike Fox wrote:
>> Got a Catrike ROAD because of quality, cost, and made in the USA.
>> Mike
>
> Meow. ;)
>
> Certainly, the devalued dollar has made buying an imported trike much less
> attractive for USians. That being said, it is good to see semi-affordable
> quality trikes being made without defacto slave labor.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia

And that being said it's good to see you postulate that semi-affordable
quality products can be made in the USA without defacto slave labor. Unless
of course some gadfly has fraudulently posted this under your name.

"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fnu8q2$8d9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Wilson Warmouth wrote:
>>
>> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:fntsfc$pf9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>> Mike Fox wrote:
>>>> Got a Catrike ROAD because of quality, cost, and made in the USA.
>>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Meow. ;)
>>>
>>> Certainly, the devalued dollar has made buying an imported trike much
>>> less attractive for USians. That being said, it is good to see
>>> semi-affordable quality trikes being made without defacto slave labor.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
>>
>> And that being said it's good to see you postulate that semi-affordable
>> quality products can be made in the USA without defacto slave labor.
>> Unless of course some gadfly has fraudulently posted this under your
>> name.
>>
> I doubt that Paulo Camasmie is making anything more than a modest middle
> class living off the company, unlike corporate executives who are
> compensated many orders of magnitude more than their positive contribution
> to society.
>
> --


Yes. If Mr. Camasmie wanted to be compensated many orders of magnitude more
than his positive contribution to society I don't think he would have chosen
to make recumbent trikes. If he can make the trikes at a profit margin that
keeps the business afloat and also affords him a modest or better middle
class living I would consider that quite an accomplishment. Cause it sure
ain't an easy thing to do.

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:fnu8q2$8d9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Wilson Warmouth wrote:
>>> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fntsfc$pf9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>> Mike Fox wrote:
>>>>> Got a Catrike ROAD because of quality, cost, and made in the USA.
>>>>> Mike
>>>> Meow. ;)
>>>>
>>>> Certainly, the devalued dollar has made buying an imported trike much
>>>> less attractive for USians. That being said, it is good to see
>>>> semi-affordable quality trikes being made without defacto slave labor.
>>>>
>>> And that being said it's good to see you postulate that semi-affordable
>>> quality products can be made in the USA without defacto slave labor.
>>> Unless of course some gadfly has fraudulently posted this under your
>>> name.
>>>
>> I doubt that Paulo Camasmie is making anything more than a modest middle
>> class living off the company, unlike corporate executives who are
>> compensated many orders of magnitude more than their positive contribution
>> to society.
>
> What is all this crap about a "positive contribution to society"? Hells
> Bells, everyone takes the money and runs, including most of all Tom Sherman.
> He is a civil engineer, a profession whose members are vastly overpaid for
> their quite modest contribution to society.
>
You mean making a third or less of what a lawyer with a comparable
educational investment makes is being vastly overpaid?

Here is a hint for Dolan, a civil engineer with a graduate degree would
be lucky to start out at $45K/year working in a major city. Of all
professionals with 5 or more years of higher education, only architects
are paid less.

> In fact, that is the very
> definition of a profession - a license to steal.
>
So that is what my PE is for! I guess I missed that part. I was under
the (apparently false) impression the highest duty of a PE was to
protect the safety of the public.

> Yea, everyone steals, even
> Mr. Sherman. But, like all liberals, he is a hypocrite about it and pretends
> he does not steal. I prefer an honest thief to a liberal hypocrite.
>
Meanwhile, Mr. Dolan is a slacker who was not able to hold a job, so he
has spent his life living off income from rental properties he inherited
from his more productive forebears.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth

>Does the Great Saint of Minnesota realize this manner of off topic
>intercourse makes the humorless cycling drivelheads crazy?

Yes! And leaving umpteen column inches of repeated thread wastes
bandwidth too.

"Mike Fox" <mikefox@Junoo.com> wrote in message
news:btl8q3t2s8tsqkuq32pc1hso72842rd9q0@4ax.com...
> >Does the Great Saint of Minnesota realize this manner of off topic
>>intercourse makes the humorless cycling drivelheads crazy?
>
> Yes! And leaving umpteen column inches of repeated thread wastes
> bandwidth too.
>

I fear the unpardonable sin of wasting bandwidth has been committed. Horror
beyond what can be imagined.

Mike Fox wrote:
>> Does the Great Saint of Minnesota realize this manner of off topic
>> intercourse makes the humorless cycling drivelheads crazy?
>
> Yes! And leaving umpteen column inches of repeated thread wastes
> bandwidth too.
>
We are not using 300 baud modems to send and receive and tape reels as
storage any more, are we? Or are you posting to Usenet with a DECwriter?

A year's discussion on alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent is likely less
bandwidth than an hour of looking at streaming video or downloading
software.

Does anyone still pay by the byte anymore for such small things as
Usenet posts? Heck, they load quickly, even with a dial-up connection.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
"And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
- A. Derleth

You're assuming I read all the blather.


>And what can be said of Mr. Fox who spends his time reading the epistles of
>the Great Saint of Minnesota?

>>And what can be said of Mr. Fox who spends his time reading the epistles
>>of
>>the Great Saint of Minnesota?


>"Mike Fox" <mikefox@Junoo.com> wrote in message
>news:kpabq3l3omfp7ogic2lfqovtaafvatfj18@4ax.com...
> You're assuming I read all the blather.



So you initiated a thread on Drivel, and you are commenting on the
responses, but you aren't reading the blather. You are a sly one Mr. Fox.

"Wilson Warmouth" <ww@wilwar.net> wrote in message
news:RpOdnTaTqteLbzjanZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>
>>>And what can be said of Mr. Fox who spends his time reading the epistles
>>>of
>>>the Great Saint of Minnesota?
>
>
>>"Mike Fox" <mikefox@Junoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:kpabq3l3omfp7ogic2lfqovtaafvatfj18@4ax.com...
>> You're assuming I read all the blather.
>
>
>
> So you initiated a thread on Drivel, and you are commenting on the
> responses, but you aren't reading the blather. You are a sly one Mr. Fox.

I bet Fox scoots off to BROL and complains about ARBR's lack of 'bent
content and the sniping that goes on around here. Life without a den mother
can be so stressing for people that get headaches when they have to think
for themselves.



gotbent aka FRVTrider



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On Feb 1, 7:59 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:fnu8q2$8d9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >> Wilson Warmouth wrote:
> >>> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:fntsfc$pf9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>>> Mike Fox wrote:
> >>>>> Got a Catrike ROAD because of quality, cost, and made in the USA.
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>> Meow. ;)
>
> >>>> Certainly, the devalued dollar has made buying an imported trike much
> >>>> less attractive for USians. That being said, it is good to see
> >>>> semi-affordable quality trikes being made without defacto slave labor.
>
> >>> And that being said it's good to see you postulate that semi-affordable
> >>> quality products can be made in the USA without defacto slave labor.
> >>> Unless of course some gadfly has fraudulently posted this under your
> >>> name.
>
> >> I doubt that Paulo Camasmie is making anything more than a modest middle
> >> class living off the company, unlike corporate executives who are
> >> compensated many orders of magnitude more than their positive contribution
> >> to society.
>
> > What is all this crap about a "positive contribution to society"? Hells
> > Bells, everyone takes the money and runs, including most of all Tom Sherman.
> > He is a civil engineer, a profession whose members are vastly overpaid for
> > their quite modest contribution to society.
>
> >
> You mean making a third or less of what a lawyer with a comparable
> educational investment makes is being vastly overpaid?
>
> Here is a hint for Dolan, a civil engineer with a graduate degree would
> be lucky to start out at $45K/year working in a major city. Of all
> professionals with 5 or more years of higher education, only architects
> are paid less.
>
> > In fact, that is the very
> > definition of a profession - a license to steal.
>
> >
> So that is what my PE is for! I guess I missed that part. I was under
> the (apparently false) impression the highest duty of a PE was to
> protect the safety of the public.
>
> > Yea, everyone steals, even
> > Mr. Sherman. But, like all liberals, he is a hypocrite about it and pretends
> > he does not steal. I prefer an honest thief to a liberal hypocrite.
>
> Meanwhile, Mr. Dolan is a slacker who was not able to hold a job, so he
> has spent his life living off income from rental properties he inherited
> from his more productive forebears.

You go girl ;^)

> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> "And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
> - A. Derleth

On Feb 1, 7:59 pm, Tom Sherman <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:fnu8q2$8d9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >> Wilson Warmouth wrote:
> >>> "Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:fntsfc$pf9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> >>>> Mike Fox wrote:
> >>>>> Got a Catrike ROAD because of quality, cost, and made in the USA.
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>> Meow. ;)
>
> >>>> Certainly, the devalued dollar has made buying an imported trike much
> >>>> less attractive for USians. That being said, it is good to see
> >>>> semi-affordable quality trikes being made without defacto slave labor.
>
> >>> And that being said it's good to see you postulate that semi-affordable
> >>> quality products can be made in the USA without defacto slave labor.
> >>> Unless of course some gadfly has fraudulently posted this under your
> >>> name.
>
> >> I doubt that Paulo Camasmie is making anything more than a modest middle
> >> class living off the company, unlike corporate executives who are
> >> compensated many orders of magnitude more than their positive contribution
> >> to society.
>
> > What is all this crap about a "positive contribution to society"? Hells
> > Bells, everyone takes the money and runs, including most of all Tom Sherman.
> > He is a civil engineer, a profession whose members are vastly overpaid for
> > their quite modest contribution to society.
>
> >
> You mean making a third or less of what a lawyer with a comparable
> educational investment makes is being vastly overpaid?
>
> Here is a hint for Dolan, a civil engineer with a graduate degree would
> be lucky to start out at $45K/year working in a major city. Of all
> professionals with 5 or more years of higher education, only architects
> are paid less.
>
> > In fact, that is the very
> > definition of a profession - a license to steal.
>
> >
> So that is what my PE is for! I guess I missed that part. I was under
> the (apparently false) impression the highest duty of a PE was to
> protect the safety of the public.
>
> > Yea, everyone steals, even
> > Mr. Sherman. But, like all liberals, he is a hypocrite about it and pretends
> > he does not steal. I prefer an honest thief to a liberal hypocrite.
>
> Meanwhile, Mr. Dolan is a slacker who was not able to hold a job, so he
> has spent his life living off income from rental properties he inherited
> from his more productive forebears.

You go girl ;^)

> --
> Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
> "And never forget, life ultimately makes failures of all people."
> - A. Derleth