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Carrera
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
The Daily Mail has claimed Heather Mills is basing her divorce defence on the allegation Paul McCartney subjected her to physical violence on one or two occasions - although he strongly denies the claim.
Heather has apparently alleged that:
(1) Paul subjected her to four violent attacks, including one in which he stabbed her in the arm with a broken wine glass.
(2) Hurled abuse at his wife, calling her an 'ungrateful bitch'.
(3) Made her cancel a crucial operation because it interfered with his holiday plans.
(4) Shoved her, sending her flying over a coffee table.
McCartney's spokesman totally denies the allegation:
'The suggestion for instance he stabbed her with a wine bottle is an outrageous accusation which is designed to damage his reputation and hurt him.î Geoff Baker, McCartney's former publicist, said: 'Heather Mills is a complete fantasist and I would not believe her if she told me the sun set in the West.'
MountainPro
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
The Daily Mail has claimed Heather Mills is basing her divorce defence on the allegation Paul McCartney subjected her to physical violence on one or two occasions - although he strongly denies the claim.
Heather has apparently alleged that:
(1) Paul subjected her to four violent attacks, including one in which he stabbed her in the arm with a broken wine glass.
(2) Hurled abuse at his wife, calling her an 'ungrateful bitch'.
(3) Made her cancel a crucial operation because it interfered with his holiday plans.
(4) Shoved her, sending her flying over a coffee table.
McCartney's spokesman totally denies the allegation:
'The suggestion for instance he stabbed her with a wine bottle is an outrageous accusation which is designed to damage his reputation and hurt him.î Geoff Baker, McCartney's former publicist, said: 'Heather Mills is a complete fantasist and I would not believe her if she told me the sun set in the West.'
you read too many tabloids...
not content with fleecing the man of millions she is now ready to tear his reputation to shreds. what a bitter, spiteful bitch.
Carrera
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
For once, I'm at a loss as to an opinion. I really don't know what to make of it all. There's been a lot of stuff written about Heather, namely that she's been impersonating Linda, has a legacy of prostitution and is supposed to be a gold digger.
On the other hand, you could argue she suffered a bad start with childhood abuse, temporary homelessness, the loss of a leg in an accident and then overcame all of that to campaign for charity - work she did before she married Macca.
So, I'm puzzled.
What I can tell you, Pro, is this isn't the first time a negative side to Paul has been portrayed. Do you remember what Denny Laine wrote after he left Wings as the lead guitarist, namely that Macca and Linda had smuggled dope through customs control in a baby pram.
Are we really to believe it was Heather who forced Paul to remove John Lennon's name from some of their early Beatles' songs and was the rift with Yoko Ono really so one sided?
I really don't know what to make of it all but it could be possible Heather isn't the bitch people assume she is. Maybe the truth will emerge at court.
you read too many tabloids...
not content with fleecing the man of millions she is now ready to tear his reputation to shreds. what a bitter, spiteful bitch.
Carrera
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
Another thing that made me have a few doubts is why didn't Macca stay with her during surgery? :confused: I mean, if you fall out with your wife or girlfriend and then later she's taken to hospital for a serious surgical operation, wouldn't you be there as a friend, if nothing else? Hell, I know I would if it was an ex-girlfriend. I think there was time for the divorce to be sorted out after the surgery as the woman must have been sick with worry.
Just a possible take on the situation. :rolleyes:
you read too many tabloids...
not content with fleecing the man of millions she is now ready to tear his reputation to shreds. what a bitter, spiteful bitch.
lwedge
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
The Daily Mail has claimed Heather Mills is basing her divorce defence on the allegation Paul McCartney subjected her to physical violence on one or two occasions - although he strongly denies the claim.
Heather has apparently alleged that:
(1) Paul subjected her to four violent attacks, including one in which he stabbed her in the arm with a broken wine glass.
(2) Hurled abuse at his wife, calling her an 'ungrateful bitch'.
(3) Made her cancel a crucial operation because it interfered with his holiday plans.
(4) Shoved her, sending her flying over a coffee table.
McCartney's spokesman totally denies the allegation:
'The suggestion for instance he stabbed her with a wine bottle is an outrageous accusation which is designed to damage his reputation and hurt him.î Geoff Baker, McCartney's former publicist, said: 'Heather Mills is a complete fantasist and I would not believe her if she told me the sun set in the West.'
The guy has been in the limelight for many years. I have never heard or read stories of Paul being violent towards anyone. We would have heard similar allegations from his late wife Linda if he were truly this kind of person.
Heather Mills is an imposter, a scoundrel, a gold-digging bitch.
lw
Carrera
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
Perhaps Linda was far more passive and congenial, whereas Heather appears to be far more contolling and assertive. So, there was a possible conflict of egos?
I did hear one of Heather's gripes was against Macca hanging around with George Michael specifically because GM was heavily into dope and has been arrested twice now - once in the U.S. So, you can imagine it may have been a case of Paul heavily resenting being told how to live his life and what friends he should have e.t.c.
This is a tough question. If Heather has made this all up, then she's obviously a very dark horse indeed. I can only guess this is one of those situations where there may be right and wrong on both sides and that this was just a total mismatch.
P.S. It's true Macca has never been accused of violence before, although John Lennon had a bit of a temper.
The guy has been in the limelight for many years. I have never heard or read stories of Paul being violent towards anyone. We would have heard similar allegations from his late wife Linda if he were truly this kind of person.
Heather Mills is an imposter, a scoundrel, a gold-digging bitch.
lw
lwedge
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
Perhaps Linda was far more passive and congenial, whereas Heather appears to be far more contolling and assertive. So, there was a possible conflict of egos?
I did hear one of Heather's gripes was against Macca hanging around with George Michael specifically because GM was heavily into dope and has been arrested twice now - once in the U.S. So, you can imagine it may have been a case of Paul heavily resenting being told how to live his life and what friends he should have e.t.c.
This is a tough question. If Heather has made this all up, then she's obviously a very dark horse indeed. I can only guess this is one of those situations where there may be right and wrong on both sides and that this was just a total mismatch.
P.S. It's true Macca has never been accused of violence before, although John Lennon had a bit of a temper.
Carrera, you are too diplomatic.... :D Off with her head....! Throw her to the lions ! Send her to the gallows.... I say.
lw
slovakguy
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
I really don't know what to make of it all but it could be possible Heather isn't the bitch people assume she is. Maybe the truth will emerge at court.
...yes, that she's a gold digging bitch. three cheers for ringo, the smart one!
lwedge
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
...yes, that she's a gold digging bitch. three cheers for ringo, the smart one!
Question: WHAT WOULD YOU THINK IF I SANG OUT OF TUNE,
WOULD YOU STAND UP AND WALK OUT OF ME?
LEND ME YOUR EARS AND I´LL SING YOU A SONG
AND I´LL TRY NOT TO SING OUT OF KEY
Carrera
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
I find it hard to imagine Mccartney as violent in the home. However, he does come across at times as a guy who has been surrounded by too many yes men who hang on his every word. Certainly I was disappointed over his having go at John Lennon and changing those song titles while Lennon wasn't around to defend himself.
Macca seems at times like he can't get over the idea many people consider John as having been the greatest Beatle talent. I mean, A Day In The Life and Strawberry Fields Forever were amazing compositions John wrote and Imagine was voted the greatest ever no 1.
To this day Macca and Yoko Ono don't get on.
Heather accused Macca of being tight - but so did Stella McCartney when he didn't send her to a private school. She (Heather) dragged him on the Chris Tarrant show and nagged him to go out more and be seen in public. Macca just isn't used to being told what he can and cannot do but that's women for you.
Carrera, you are too diplomatic.... :D Off with her head....! Throw her to the lions ! Send her to the gallows.... I say.
lw
Wurm
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
Paul has always been my least favorite Beatle non-musically speaking; over the years he has come off to me as controlling and egotist, (the Abbey Road issues, greedy about song rights and royalties, the Yoko thing). But then, having been in bands myself I know that someone has to be in charge and there are usually conflicts about it. There can be enormous problems otherwise too. Playing music professionally can be one of the worst jobs there is, and at times one of the best. A lot of musicians turn out to be real pricks.
This Heather it seems would have come out before about any abuse, had it really occured. OTOH, I've heard that Paul is worth somewhere around a billion dollars all told - would you let someone beat yerass for 20, 100, 300, 500 million? :eek: I'm sure most of us would. :D
Do you remember what Denny Laine wrote after he left Wings as the lead guitarist, namely that Macca and Linda had smuggled dope through customs control in a baby pram."News Flash!! The Beatles did droogs!! :eek: I think that issue was moot after about...when they returned from the India excursion? :rolleyes::rolleyes: There must be one disgruntled ex-Beatle fan that refused to buy their records, now living in a yak-skin hut in Outer Mongolia that actually still gives a shit.
Well, Carrera needs his ass beat anyway...for free! http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/images/smilies/cheers.gif
Carrera
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
The media opinion has gone against Heather but I suspect some of her allegations may contain an element of truth. I can recall reading just a few weeks ago how Macca stormed out of an awards ceremony because his latest album didn't win the main award. Apparently he flew past Sting in a temper without even so much as saying "Kiss my ass!" He ignored everybody there.
I suspect this has been a major clash of egos with Heather trying to control Macca to the point he may have gotten close to violence, maybe shoved her or something. I think this is a case of there being two to tango and both parties are far from innocent.
For the first time, Paul may have been involved with someone who refused to bow to all of his whims and tell him how great he is and it may well be the case Macca couldn't deal with such a situation. Maybe Linda was far more passive and meek so the relationship worked in that case.
At any rate, if Heather can show this scar she says she has of the wine-glass attack and prove Macca also has a scar from falling over in a drunken stupor, there will be big damage to his reputation. She also claims to have a tape of Paul and Stella running her down and being very nasty during a phone conversation.
Paul has always been my least favorite Beatle non-musically speaking; over the years he has come off to me as controlling and egotist, (the Abbey Road issues, greedy about song rights and royalties, the Yoko thing). But then, having been in bands myself I know that someone has to be in charge and there are usually conflicts about it. There can be enormous problems otherwise too. Playing music professionally can be one of the worst jobs there is, and at times one of the best. A lot of musicians turn out to be real pricks.
This Heather it seems would have come out before about any abuse, had it really occured. OTOH, I've heard that Paul is worth somewhere around a billion dollars all told - would you let someone beat yerass for 20, 100, 300, 500 million? :eek: I'm sure most of us would. :D
News Flash!! The Beatles did droogs!! :eek: I think that issue was moot after about...when they returned from the India excursion? :rolleyes::rolleyes: There must be one disgruntled ex-Beatle fan that refused to buy their records, now living in a yak-skin hut in Outer Mongolia that actually still gives a shit.
Well, Carrera needs his ass beat anyway...for free! http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/images/smilies/cheers.gif
MountainPro
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
Macca also has a scar from falling over in a drunken stupor, there will be big damage to his reputation.
so what..the guys only human....if we are talking drinking related scars, i can boast a few.
also, turns out the psycho-bitch is actually the one doing the beating. I tell you, that leg of hers can be classed as a deadly weapon, plus its handy when your hanging a picture and you've mis-placed your hammer.
MountainPro
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
aparently, Paul has hit the drink..
Wurm
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
I tell you, that leg of hers can be classed as a deadly weapon, Bet she could grip a hammer with what's between them. :eek:
Carrera
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
They're saying she nagged him, threw bottles around in rage and smashed things up. :D
I know how he feels. ;)
Once after I'd had a few drinks, I wrote something on a girlfriends foot with a marker pen while she sat next to me on the sofa at a party. I wrote something a bit rude and she then threw a tantrum. She punched me and left a huge bruise on my shoulder and she stormed off in a temper.
I had the bruise for weeks after. Part of it was jealousy as she was jealous over another girl at the party so lashed out with physical violence. Poor Carrera. :( :(
so what..the guys only human....if we are talking drinking related scars, i can boast a few.
also, turns out the psycho-bitch is actually the one doing the beating. I tell you, that leg of hers can be classed as a deadly weapon, plus its handy when your hanging a picture and you've mis-placed your hammer.
Wurm
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
Well, what about a story of real hubby abuse, like that of the famous scientist Steven Hawking? This is no joke!
Stephen Hawking: Abused Husband
What has always been fairly clear has now just been made perfectly clear--professor Stephen Hawking, one of the world's greatest minds, was physically abused repeatedly by his wife. Thankfully, Hawking is now finally divorcing his abuser. According to Hawking's nurse reveals why she is not surprised his marriage is over (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=411781&in_page_id=1770) (Daily Mail; 10/20/06):
"'I'm not surprised,' said the voice on the end of the line when informed yesterday that Professor Stephen Hawking is divorcing his wife Elaine.
"'Not surprised at all - I just wish it had happened a long, long time ago.'
"The voice belonged to a nurse who used to care for Prof Hawking; she parted company with him, reluctantly, after Elaine became the second Mrs. Hawking in 1995.
"'She is the reason I left. It's the reason everyone leaves. It's impossible to reconcile the way she treated Stephen with the ethics of our profession. I don't want to say anymore because it brings back painful memories.'
"It is a sentiment shared by almost all Prof Hawking's friends and family; relief that he is now finally free of Elaine, and distress that it has taken so long; the couple have been together for 17 years.
"It is a relationship that, almost from the beginning, has provoked a storm of controversy - and suspicion - the wheelchair-bound Prof Hawking, 64, who has suffered from motor neurone disease since the age of 22, and the 'controlling, manipulative and bullying' (the words of another former employee) Elaine.
"Because for years there have been shocking rumours of violence and abuse against the vulnerable scientist - mental as well as physical - supported by his own children no less.
"There is unlikely to be any reference to these allegations in divorce papers lodged by both parties at Cambridge County Court, however.
"Prof Hawking has publicly denied such claims in the past. For a fiercely proud man who, though feted as possibly the world's most famous living scientist, must rely on others to help him perform basic human functions, it surely would have been the final indignity: to be forced to deny that he is a battered husband.
"Next month, he will receive the Royal Society's most prestigious prize - the Copley Medal - won by such luminaries as Charles Darwin, Benjamin Franklin and Albert Einstein....
"In 2000, detectives launched an inquiry after Prof Hawking made a number of visits to Addenbrooke's Hospital, Cambridge, suffering from cuts and bruises, and another inquiry was opened in 2003 after his daughter Lucy rang police.
"Prof Hawking declined to explain how his injuries had come about. A number of his former nurses, however, were in no doubt.
"They alleged that over the years his wife inflicted a catalogue of injuries on the vulnerable scientist: fractured his wrist by slamming it on to his wheelchair; humiliated him by refusing him access to a urine bottle, leaving him to wet himself; gashed his cheek with a razor, allowed him to slip beneath the water while in the bath, ensuring water entered the tracheotomy site in his throat; and left him alone in his garden during the hottest day of the year so long that he suffered heatstroke and severe sunburn.
"It is these allegations that police investigated.
"But a woman who worked for him at Cambridge University says the 'unexplained injuries' began 'many years before' the police became involved.
"'He used to regularly come in with bruises and cuts,' said the source.
"'I remember once he turned up with a black eye. I asked him; 'How did that happen Stephen?' He replied: 'I bumped into a door.' That was obviously my cue to shut up, so I did.' 'It was common knowledge that Stephen was very, very unhappy long before all the allegations appeared in the papers."
"'Before they were married they went on holiday to Israel and we heard later that they had a furious row and their hotel room was damaged [former nurses claimed that Elaine would 'throw things around the kitchen' during tantrums].'
"I remember asking Stephen why he and Elaine stayed together and he said: 'any relationship was better than none.'
"'In the end I left Stephen because I couldn't stand it. I felt very strongly that I could no longer carry on without feeling that I was colluding in what was happening.'
"Normally, the break-up of a marriage is the cause of immense sadness and regret. But today, the family and friends of Prof Stephen Hawking - indeed for everyone who knows and admires him - those emotions have been replaced by a profound sense of relief."
Read the full article here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=411781&in_page_id=1770). As I've written on numerous occasions, research overwhelmingly shows that women are just as likely as men to commit domestic violence, and a significant minority of those injured in domestic violence are heterosexual men. To learn more about male victims of domestic violence, see my recent co-authored column Schwarzenegger Should Veto AB 2051 (http://www.glennsacks.com/schwarzenegger_should_veto.htm) ([i]Orange County Register, [/i]9/20/06).[b] Hawking to Pay Huge Divorce Settlement to His Abuser[/b]
To add insult to injury, Stephen Hawking will now be paying out a large sum of money--in the millions, probably--to the woman who battered him. According to Hawking's nurse reveals why she is not surprised his marriage is over (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=411781&in_page_id=1770) (Daily Mail; 10/20/06):
"[Elaine] will leave her second marriage considerably wealthier than she did her first.
"The couple's townhouse in Cambridge, purchased in 1992 and now worth $1.4 million is in their joint names.
"Moreover, he has amassed a vast personal fortune.
"More than 210,000 copies of his book [i]A Brief History Of Time[/i] have been sold in the past eight years alone, netting more than $3.5 million. He has also made lucrative sums from other books.
"On Thursday, Mrs. Hawking, who has always denied marrying for money, cycled to the (former) marital home where she was understood to have attended a meeting with solicitors.
"'I have been told that - surprise - one of the stumbling blocks in the divorce is money,' said an old family friend."
[b]
Hawking and Anti-Male Bias[/b]
There are a couple of other interesting elements in the article on Hawking, including this section:
"Elaine was, as we know, originally Prof Hawking's nurse and joined the staff after he had a tracheotomy operation in 1985 - the result of a previous pneumonia infection which nearly killed him.
"The operation left him unable to breath unaided and in need of round-the-clock supervision.
"It was Elaine's former husband, engineer David Mason, who made the voicebox which created the robot-like vocal tone for which Prof Hawking is now famous.
"From the start, say friends, she set out to ingratiate herself with him, and, over a period of time, the family noticed the mesmeric hold the 'new nurse' was beginning to exert over her charge, and felt deeply uneasy.
"'She brainwashed him to think that she was the only person who could possibly look after him,' one friend recalled.
"'She was also really jealous of his children and the close relationship they had with him.'
"Matters were complicated when his wife of 26 years began having an affair in the Eighties - with, apparently, Hawking's tacit approval - with a choirmaster, whom she had befriended after his wife died of leukaemia.
"Elaine began accompanying Prof Hawking on trips abroad.
"Prof Hawking and Jane divorced in 1990.
"He finally married Elaine in 1995 but neither Jane or their three children
attended."
What's interesting about this is that I can distinctly remember that when Hawking and his wife Jane divorced in 1990, this was portrayed as yet another example of men dumping their faithful, devoted wives for a younger model. In fact, I can distinctly remember this being portrayed as "see, all men do it--even this guy who's crippled does it." Somehow the fact that Jane was having an affair before their break-up didn't seem to be part of the public discussion of the issue.
I discussed the myth that many men ditch their loving wives for younger women in my co-authored column The Rise in 'Gray Divorce': It's Always Hubby's Fault (http://www.glennsacks.com/the_rise_in_gray.htm) ([i]Houston Chronicle, [/i]2/19/06). I wrote:
"...the stereotype of the husband trading in his wife for a younger model is by and large a myth. The women in [a recent American Association of Retired Persons] study were 60% more likely to claim that they ended their marriages than the men were, and men were almost twice as likely as women to say that they never saw their divorces coming. In contrast to the Porsche and trophy wife stereotype, the AARP study found that these divorced men had many serious concerns, high among them their fear of losing touch with their children after their divorces...Though nobody says it, 'dumped for a younger woman' is sometimes just a woman's cop-out for not taking responsibility for her own contribution to the marital breakdown."
Carrera
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
Personal experience tells me women get violent when they're jealous, otherwise they are less violent than guys.
I've been struck one or two times by jealous females but would never hit back as it kind of goes against my disposition.
Car-drivers, though, that's a different story.
Well, what about a story of real hubby abuse, like that of the famous scientist Steven Hawking? This is no joke!
Wurm
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
That may be your experience, but it in no way diminishes what has evidently happened to Dr. Hawking, (and others). I'm glad to hear he's finally gotten himself away from that.
Women less violent than guys? Probably so generally. But I've seen women get violent for other reasons besides jealousy - being simply pissed off in an argument about 'whatever' and lashing out. I've been attacked with a knife by a woman and it wasn't about jealousy.
I saw a story on TV the other night that said while men commit 93% of murders, the 7% of women murderers are often quite evil or cruel in their acts, more so than men. They had on a couple of doctors who have created an "evil ranking" - 22 different levels of evil based on severity and the circumstances of the acts.
When they're bad...they're very, very bad. ;)
Colorado Ryder
FLASH: PAUL McCARTNEY ACCUSED OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE
I've been attacked with a knife by a woman and it wasn't about jealousy.
Why am I not surprised?
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