What nation produces the best dopers

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Which nation and why.

And, who are your favorite dopers and why.

I, for example, like Tyler Hamilton because he's kind, honest and likes dogs. Who's your favorite?

Which nation and why.

And, who are your favorite dopers and why.

I, for example, like Tyler Hamilton because he's kind, honest and likes dogs. Who's your favorite?

Define "best"
Best at hiding it?
Best at using it?
Best at new doping techniques?
Best at lying about it?

Also, please add Australia, Lux, Osterreich, Switzerland, UK, Ireland, Kaz, Rus

Also, please add Australia, Lux, Osterreich, Switzerland, UK, Ireland, Kaz, Rus
Aussies? wtf? sif Aussies have to dope...;)

Which nation and why.

And, who are your favorite dopers and why.

I, for example, like Tyler Hamilton because he's kind, honest and likes dogs. Who's your favorite?This is really a difficult choice.Armstrong,for his record in eluding detection...Hamilton,for the most imaginative excuses...or Landis,because he likes a beer or two?
Massive hypocrisy is such an enviable trait in the rich and famous...for sheer entertainment value....Ladies and gentlemen (and Helmut)...
LANCE ARMSTRONG!

Aussies? wtf? sif Aussies have to dope...;)
sssshhhhhhh.......

Define "best"
Best at hiding it?
Best at using it?
Best at new doping techniques?
Best at lying about it?

Also, please add Australia, Lux, Osterreich, Switzerland, UK, Ireland, Kaz, RusWell, doping means so much to so many different people that I'd have to open my own forum on doping in cycling to address all the issues and, really, I don't like the idea of competing with this forum on that front since it serves that purpose well and I'm probably one of the biggest dope-story mongers on this board.

But hey, you left out Swazieland. Write-in votes will be tabulated. Spelling counts!

As of right now, the American dopers are firmly leading in the poll. I can hear a few chants here in my office of "USA! USA! USA!" I sense it will build to a roar as we approach the deadline.

I think we're going to pull this thing off.

Five, four, three, two...

Al Michaels: "Yes! Do you believe in miracles!?... Wait. Some of the people voting for the best doping nation have been accused of doping! Oh no. This opens a whole new can of worms."

Aussies? wtf? sif Aussies have to dope...;)My bad, but write-in votes will be tabulated. And spelling counts!

My bad, but write-in votes will be tabulated. And spelling counts!
Italia, Italia, Italia

My vote...........the Americans between Canada and Mexico.

Who in the U.S. coined the phrase: "if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough"? Also, as children, weren't we taught that "it's not wether you win or lose, but how you get away with cheating and winning?" It's bred into our psyches.

To quote Sean Connery in 'The Rock': "Losers always talk about doing their best, while the winners go home and f#*& the prom queen."

Best cheater / doper?..............Armstrong

Nation producing the best dopers?

USA
Belguim
Italy
Germany
Spain
Norway
Dutch
Miami, Fla ?????????????

When did Miami, Florida become a nation??????????????:confused:

When did Miami, Florida become a nation??????????????:confused:when it was overtaken by cuba in the 60's.

anyhoo, america is definitely the best doping nation. 8 tours in 8 years, with only one hiccup.

Italia, Italia, ItaliaNo, no, no, our dopers are about average, and usually get caught. Our doping doctors are probably the best in the world, however.

so true between checchini and ferrari that's pretty much the fedor and crocop of doping doc's.

so true between checchini and ferrari that's pretty much the fedor and crocop of doping doc's.USA! USA!