What happens when you oppose Bu$hCo too vigorously

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I agree w/ this. If you are not against the wholesale selling/farming out of our country to the highest, rather lowest, bidder then you are complicit-read-guilty of sleeping on watch. A crime punishable by death in a time of war. Look at the time :eek: Gotta go.
David, that is just stupid. How does a bunch of lazy kids, living off their parents' money, joining a communist front organization and burning down buildings on their own campus improve the situation? Did you do as much acid as Ruppert?;)

I like the Dalai Lama,but that doesn't mean that I'm a buddhist.
:D
What is your opinion of communist oppression in Tibet?

You questioned
my ability to have an informed opinion on Cuba by pointing out that I have never been there.
Why is it OK for you to have an opinion on Iraq (without personal knowledge of the place),but not me?
Please...keep it honest.Yes, let's be honest. You questioned my ability to have an informed opinion about Cuba, because I had not been there and Lim had, as you take every opportunity to pat me on the head and imply I am such a naive, ill-informed little girl. I disagreed with the idea that you, in Australia, are MORE informed than I am here in America where the topic of Cuba and immigration is discussed and reported on at length, and by more than one point of view I might add, and has been for many years.

I wasn't aware that New Amsterdam was the former capital city of the US.
I've learnt something new.
Thanks
I wasn't positively sure but I was correct:
United States of America
Washington, D.C. has been the national capital of the United States since 1800.

From 1774 to 1800, Congress met in numerous locations; as such, the following cities can be said to have once been the United States capital[1]:

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Under the First Continental Congress
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: September 5, 1774 to October 24, 1774; May 10, 1775 to December 12, 1776
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Under the Second Continental Congress
Baltimore, Maryland: December 20, 1776 to February 27, 1777
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: March 4, 1777 to September 18, 1777
Lancaster, Pennsylvania: September 27, 1777 (one day)
York, Pennsylvania: September 30, 1777 to June 27, 1778
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: July 2, 1778 to March 1, 1781
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Under the Articles of Confederation
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: March 1, 1781 to June 21, 1783
Princeton, New Jersey: June 30, 1783 to November 4, 1783
Annapolis, Maryland: November 26, 1783 to August 19, 1784
Trenton, New Jersey: November 1, 1784 to December 24, 1784
New York City: January 11, 1785 to Autumn 1788
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Under the Constitution
New York City: March 4, 1789 to August 12, 1790
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: December 6, 1790 to May 14, 1800
Washington, D.C.: November 17, 1800 to present

I noticed your list of types left out Stalinists. See, that's a modern day propaganda tactic, designed to distance "communism" from Stalin. Except every example of communism as applied to REALITY is dismal.
Full speed ahead w/ your generalities then. As an aside, did stalinism get the seal of approval from marx? I havn't ever heard that it did. It was simply a variant of communism if any relation at all. I could make up my own variant if i chose. That doesn't give it legitimacy however.

Some of them don't seem to realise that,outside the US the term"communist" is much more likely to be regarded as a neutral description on political belief,rather than an insult.
I rather like it when people call me a communist...it immediately lets me know what sort of person I'm dealing with.
:D
I think it is the history of communism that leads one to not really be neutral about it.

Is the term "fascist" a neutral description on political belief? Of course not. The Nazis took any neutral description away, as one of the most heinous, evil governments in the history of time. And the neutral description of it is horrible anyway.

As Durangodave pointed out, communism looks terrrible on paper too. And it has a heinous, evil history to rival that of the Nazis. So I will point out where people are being communist apologists. I have done so without very much vitriol, I hope. But I am not trying to be insulting or condescending -- I just think it's true. You have posted enough for anyone on the forum to make their own decision.

And you know what kind of person you're dealing with -- smart and sassy, and not afraid of you! You love it.;)

David, that is just stupid. How does a bunch of lazy kids, living off their parents' money, joining a communist front organization and burning down buildings on their own campus improve the situation? Did you do as much acid as Ruppert?;)
Spoken like a true dyed in the wool sheep (apathetic dupe):rolleyes:

I think it is the history of communism that leads one to not really be neutral about it.

Is the term "fascist" a neutral description on political belief? Of course not. The Nazis took any neutral description away, as one of the most heinous, evil governments in the history of time. And the neutral description of it is horrible anyway.

As Durangodave pointed out, communism looks terrrible on paper too. And it has a heinous, evil history to rival that of the Nazis. So I will point out where people are being communist apologists. I have done so without very much vitriol, I hope. But I am not trying to be insulting or condescending -- I just think it's true. You have posted enough for anyone on the forum to make their own decision.

And you know what kind of person you're dealing with -- smart and sassy, and not afraid of you! You love it.;)
Whic would you consider worse:fascism or communism :confused: My state is being run under a quasi-fascist administration :)

...As an aside, did stalinism get the seal of approval from marx? I havn't ever heard that it did. It was simply a variant of communism if any relation at all...Marx was pretty clear that society would not proceed from capitalist to communist without some form of intermediate dicatorship. Surely he did not have Stalin in mind. But the immense accumulation of unchecked power is very likely to attract some real low-lifes.

F. A. Hayek wrote a neat little book about this called The Road to Serfdom, a condemnation of the planned-economy and a tidy defense of a "well regulated free market." He's often viewed as a libertarian hero, but Ayn Rand hated him because he didn't go all-the-way, philosophically speaking.

Marx was pretty clear that society would not proceed from capitalist to communist without some form of intermediate dicatorship. I don't recall from my Marx studies right now, but I wonder if he would have included imperialism as a form of said dictatorship, such as what the US is well on the path to today? Probably not, though I would agree with others who've said imperialism is the end result of unchecked capitalism.

David, that is just stupid. How does a bunch of lazy kids, living off their parents' money, joining a communist front organization and burning down buildings on their own campus improve the situation?Because it would remind the few in power that there are always many more of "us" than there are of them - by several orders of magnitude. That fact is ultimately the only thing that would keep the power elite from enslaving the population, or deliver us from it.

Isn't that what Jefferson said gov't's main role should be (along with national defense), to be a buffer between the People and the powerful, in order to protect the People from them?

No wonder the Right can't stand so-called "big gov't".

Did you do as much acid as Ruppert?
Ruppert has much more credibility than anyone you can produce from the current Repig/Neo Con milieu. Gee, let's see: William Krystal? Bill Bennett? Newt Gingrich? :rolleyes: Nope, nope, and nope.

I wouldn't go throwing unsubstantiated slurs about drug abuses if I were a supporter of The Coke-Head/Alcoholic-in-Chief, who BTW is also a military deserter during wartime. :o

Because it would remind the few in power that there are always many more of "us" than there are of them - by several orders of magnitude. That fact is ultimately the only thing that would keep the power elite from enslaving the population, or deliver us from it.

Isn't that what Jefferson said gov't's main role should be (along with national defense), to be a buffer between the People and the powerful, in order to protect the People from them?

No wonder the Right can't stand so-called "big gov't".


Ruppert has much more credibility than anyone you can produce from the current Repig/Neo Con milieu. Gee, let's see: William Krystal? Bill Bennett? Newt Gingrich? :rolleyes: Nope, nope, and nope.

I wouldn't go throwing unsubstantiated slurs about drug abuses if I were a supporter of The Coke-Head/Alcoholic-in-Chief, who BTW is also a military deserter during wartime. :o
you mean bill clinton?

Spoken like a true dyed in the wool sheep (apathetic dupe):rolleyes:
You didn't answer the question.

Whic would you consider worse:fascism or communism :confused: My state is being run under a quasi-fascist administration :)
I consider totalitarianism the worst! And the people on this forum act as if the US is a totalitarian state, while refusing to recognize or condemn actual totalitarian states, like Iran or Cuba.

Since you are such a stickler for the definitions of words, what do you define as "fascist" and "quasi-fascist." You seem to bandy those words about cavalierly.

Whatever you call him, Bush will be gone in 2 years. Then, we will vote in an election for the next jerk-off we're stuck with for 4 to 8 years, and so on. Whichever jerk-off you choose, you will have someone who is a member of the "power elite," okay? You guys sound like a bunch of sixth grade girls. In fact, David, why don't you run for Miss America so you can get on stage and cry and say "I want world peace!"

Full speed ahead w/ your generalities then. As an aside, did stalinism get the seal of approval from marx? I havn't ever heard that it did. It was simply a variant of communism if any relation at all. I could make up my own variant if i chose. That doesn't give it legitimacy however.
Sorry, but I'm unaware of some sort of regulatory process where communist regimes are given approval ratings by the head communist. That sort of thing is the domain of free countries. Marx is dead, so who is going to give "seal of approval" to a dictator now? You? Which communist govts are legitimate anyhow? No people have ever voted for it, it is forced upon them by "revolution" after which no one will ever vote for anything ever again.

In fact, David, why don't you run for Miss America so you can get on stage and cry and say "I want world peace!"
:D

I doubt he can even define fascist. He simply read it in Michael Moore's book so it must be true.

you mean bill clinton?Do I mean Clinton in reference to...what?? Are you saying Clinton was anything like the failed, boozing, coke-snorting, lazy bum that "Guardsman" Chickenhawk was/is? Oh that's right! As soon as Chimpy McFlightsuit gets his shameful & bogus bona fides exposed, it's back to blaming Clinton.

That's a big, fat :rolleyes:. Take a look at Der Fuhrer's bio, if you care to read one that's honest and doesn't leave out the embarrassing details of his focked-up efforts at being a real man.

If not for his Daddy's $$, GWB would have ended on skid-row. Or dead. Or in prison.

Nice try nns, but no cigar.

Do I mean Clinton in reference to...what?? Are you saying Clinton was anything like the failed, boozing, coke-snorting, lazy bum that "Guardsman" Chickenhawk was/is? Oh that's right! As soon as Chimpy McFlightsuit gets his shameful & bogus bona fides exposed, it's back to blaming Clinton.

That's a big, fat :rolleyes:. Take a look at Der Fuhrer's bio, if you care to read one that's honest and doesn't leave out the embarrassing details of his focked-up efforts at being a real man.

If not for his Daddy's $$, GWB would have ended on skid-row. Or dead. Or in prison.

Nice try nns, but no cigar.
George Bush is a multi-millionaire, Harvard educated man who attained the position of the most powerful man on the planet...not once...but twice.

If he's an idiot.......what's that make you Wurm? How YOU doing?

:D :D :eek: :eek:

How's that taste.

George Bush is a multi-millionaire, Harvard educated man who attained the position of the most powerful man on the planet...not once...but twice.

If he's an idiot.......what's that make you Wurm? How YOU doing?

:D :D :eek: :eek:

How's that taste.

Harken Energy was a real business success (not).

Ditto Spectrum 7.

Do I mean Clinton in reference to...what?? Are you saying Clinton was anything like the failed, boozing, coke-snorting, lazy bum that "Guardsman" Chickenhawk was/is? Oh that's right! As soon as Chimpy McFlightsuit gets his shameful & bogus bona fides exposed, it's back to blaming Clinton.

That's a big, fat :rolleyes:. Take a look at Der Fuhrer's bio, if you care to read one that's honest and doesn't leave out the embarrassing details of his focked-up efforts at being a real man.

If not for his Daddy's $$, GWB would have ended on skid-row. Or dead. Or in prison.

Nice try nns, but no cigar.
Um, I wasn't blaming Bill Clinton for anything :confused: . You really like to read a lot into things, don't you? I was just reminded of a certain former president who used drugs and was a draft dodger. And everyone on the left said SO WHAT?! Military service in Vietnam doesn't mean a damn thing.

Until the very next election cycle. Please. Your outrage is outrageous.

As far as my unsubstantiated drug slur, that's called a joke. Jokes are made by people who aren't twisted by their own bitterness. Even davidmc can get a joke once it's explained to him :rolleyes: .