How many of you carry a gun as part of your cycling equipment?

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A nationwide ban fails too, according to your logic. They can be imported from Canada or Mexico. Its not rocket science.It is obviously more difficult to travel to canada or mexico and buy a gun than it is to travel from washington dc to virginia and buy a gun.
Isn't it?
:D

I wouldn't carry a gun on my bike, even in bear/mountain lion counrty most times. Pepper spray, yes, depending on where I was.Pepper spray will repel a bear. That's powerful shit. It works similarly on human animals. I don't care who you are, you can't defeat being blinded and choked.

Where I grew up, among the people I knew, if you really wanted the experience of the outdoors, you didn't do it on a bike, and you didn't carry a gun, even while hiking. If you were going to enter the space of a large predator, you had to also realize you were re-entering the food chain on nature's terms. Many men I know felt that was the true tradeoff of being an outdoorsman.
As I said before, I have been a gunowner for most of my life. Never thought of them as protection, but as sporting tools...... Pepper spray is a excellent repellent in bear country, but not grizzly country. But if a grizzly got close enough to you , I doubt if a gun could be used for protection anyway.
What I think is funny, is hearing stories about MTB riders in the California area being attacked by mountain lions that are moving into the outskirts of larger urban areas. I find some mountain bikers and those ATV things to be really intrusive in wilderness areas. Let the cats attack .....
There was a story about a yuppie female complaining that she felt the wilderness wasn't safe anymore. In Minnesota at the Boundary Waters, which is an excellent wilderness area, a politician quite a few years ago wanted a road going through the center of it. The reasoning was something to do with the Federal Handicap Law. The politician felt that the handicap should have the wilderness available to them..... I think the politician managed to get Federal funds jerked. It was long time ago and I can't quite remember how it all went down ......

It is obviously more difficult to travel to canada or mexico and buy a gun than it is to travel from washington dc to virginia and buy a gun.
Isn't it?
:D
Not if you live in most of the US.

Not if you live in most of the US. I know what you are saying , and for some odd reason you and I are almost on the same page. However, if you live in the midwest US in a city with a large Hispanic poplulation, guns come easy. Where I live , in 5 minutes a gun brought to my area from Mexico is available if you have the right connections.
I am assuming that this conversation is about handguns. Because Canada does not ban guns in general being taken into Canada. Just handguns. People with guns are more welcome in Canada then people with DWI's.

But , it is easy to purchase guns in any large city.

A nationwide ban fails too, according to your logic. They can be imported from Canada or Mexico. Its not rocket science.

.....another variation on the "if me aunt had balls she'd be me uncle......" theme

No I do not wear black leather gear, but just regular cycling clothes like blue Pearlzumi gloves, or black full Pearlzumi gloves, regular Pearlzumi cycling shorts, tights and jerseys and a purple Pearlzumi jacket (and thermal layers to stay warm). I am not some tough chick! I wear regular carbon clipless Shimano cycling shoes (without stiletto heels). I just get pissed at some of the A--holes on the road! Besides stilettos would result in extra rotational weight kind of like the joke about the light titanium bike, and the one guy says, but does yours come with a kickstand???

You can
think that without carrying a gun (and increasing the risk of actually doing it). :D

PS.Do you wear black leather gear when on your bike? :)Clipless stilettoes? carry a whip? :eek: :eek:

.....another variation on the "if me aunt had balls she'd be me uncle......" themeIm sorry, but youre still not making any sense. Its pretty obvious my point of the post that you quoted. If youre blind to that fact, well, you have greater issues to deal with.

It is obviously more difficult to travel to canada or mexico and buy a gun than it is to travel from washington dc to virginia and buy a gun.
Isn't it?
:DObviously, you dont live here. I have been to Mexico, and you can practically walk across the border without seeing another soul. So, youre wrong. I have the proper permits and I still cant buy in another state.

According to the government, which isnt exactly without bias.

Even the gun lobby doesn't claim gun deaths in Australia have increased.

Bit of a message there. ;)

cities do not have border controls, import/export controls ect. Countries do, thats the difference.

effective policing of these controls would reduce that.


A nationwide ban fails too, according to your logic. They can be imported from Canada or Mexico. Its not rocket science.

The Dunblane massacre occurred at the primary school in the small town of Dunblane in central Scotland

On Wednesday, 13 March 1996, unemployed former shopkeeper Thomas Hamilton walked in to the school armed with two 9mm Browning HP pistols and two Smith and Wesson .357 revolvers. He was carrying 743 cartridges.

After gaining entry to the school, Hamilton made his way to the gym hall and opened fire on a class of 5-6 year olds, killing or wounding every person present bar one pupil. Fifteen children and a teacher (Mrs Gwen Mayor) died at the scene. Hamilton then fired one shot with one of his two revolvers pointing upwards into his mouth, killing himself instantly. A further fifteen children and three adults were rushed to the hospital as soon as the emergency services arrived; however, one of these children was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital.

for a full list of the dead and for more info, click here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_Massacre

his guns were all legal and licensed.

would arming the teachers with thier own guns have prevented this?

you really dont have to answer that question.

Obviously, you dont live here. I have been to Mexico, and you can practically walk across the border without seeing another soul. So, youre wrong. I have the proper permits and I still cant buy in another state.That's a pretty long walk from north carolina...or to canada.
It's a very short walk from washington dc to virginia,though,isn't it?
:D :D

According to the government, which isnt exactly without bias.So the statistics from the Australian Institute of Criminology (a government agency),which were (mis)quoted by the other gun-nut 6fhscjess, were wrong?
:D :D :D

Im sorry, but youre still not making any sense. Its pretty obvious my point of the post that you quoted. If youre blind to that fact, well, you have greater issues to deal with.

Charlton - it's you who's not making sense

Quite simple really : gun ban = no guns.
Or maybe you don't understand maths as well ?

A nationwide ban fails too, according to your logic. They can be imported from Canada or Mexico. Its not rocket science.

It doesn't fail if possession of guns are illegal.

The Dunblane massacre occurred at the primary school in the small town of Dunblane in central Scotland

On Wednesday, 13 March 1996, unemployed former shopkeeper Thomas Hamilton walked in to the school armed with two 9mm Browning HP pistols and two Smith and Wesson .357 revolvers. He was carrying 743 cartridges.

After gaining entry to the school, Hamilton made his way to the gym hall and opened fire on a class of 5-6 year olds, killing or wounding every person present bar one pupil. Fifteen children and a teacher (Mrs Gwen Mayor) died at the scene. Hamilton then fired one shot with one of his two revolvers pointing upwards into his mouth, killing himself instantly. A further fifteen children and three adults were rushed to the hospital as soon as the emergency services arrived; however, one of these children was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital.

for a full list of the dead and for more info, click here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_Massacre

his guns were all legal and licensed.

would arming the teachers with thier own guns have prevented this?

you really dont have to answer that question.

I saw the follow up program to Dunblane on the BBC last week.
A terrible tragedy.

There is a requirement for legally held, strictly controlled possession of firearms.
But the USA doesn't have this - you can by a gun once you reach majority age.
Scandalous.

Obviously, you dont live here. I have been to Mexico, and you can practically walk across the border without seeing another soul. So, youre wrong. I have the proper permits and I still cant buy in another state.Illegal drugs are also smuggled across the border.Should restrictions be lifted on illegal drugs?

:confused:

Illegal drugs are also smuggled across the border.Should restrictions be lifted on illegal drugs?

:confused:


good point.

good point.Considering he just proved my point, yes, good point. Banning them does nothing, as you can see.

Considering he just proved my point, yes, good point. Banning them does nothing, as you can see.

He didn't prove your point.

Nor did you answer his question.

We await your view as to the legalisation of drugs.