Another Bike Shorts Question.

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Since reading recent posts about bike shorts problems I'm wondering if anyone
here repairs their shorts when the chamois wear out? I still have my old shorts
that started with leather chamois. The lycra is still good but the chamois has
shredded completely. I do more miles using the synthetics but they eventually
wear out also. While I still use the worn shorts on short rides I'm wondering
can the chamois be replaced? I know about the white shorts that has a padding
built in. I suppose I could use a old pair to make a pattern but what material
would I use?

billhinds@aol.comnospam (whinds) wrote in message news:<20040413193222.22963.00000194@mb-m22.aol.com>...
> Since reading recent posts about bike shorts problems I'm wondering if anyone
> here repairs their shorts when the chamois wear out? I still have my old shorts
> that started with leather chamois. The lycra is still good but the chamois has
> shredded completely. I do more miles using the synthetics but they eventually
> wear out also. While I still use the worn shorts on short rides I'm wondering
> can the chamois be replaced? I know about the white shorts that has a padding
> built in. I suppose I could use a old pair to make a pattern but what material
> would I use?

This is not likely to be an economically viable solution. Beyond
looking though the chamois at Pep Boys for the best piece, I've no
idea where you might buy the stuff.

Unless you are an accomplished seamster (seamstress didn't seem the
right thing to say) you're likely to wind up with bunched-up chamois
or bunched-up lycra when you stich it together.

If this is a really nice pair of shorts I might suggest Kucharik to
repair them; you'd have to ask him if he'd be willing to fix them.
ISTR that he will re-chamois his own shorts for a fee.

Now, howdja shred the chamois and not the lycra? Didja machine wash
and dry them instead of hand washing them, hanging them to dry in a
westerly breeze not less than 5 mph nor mor than 8 mph, then carefully
applying chamois cream while sitting in a lotus position?

All kidding aside, I find that machine washing them has done no harm,
but I let them dry naturally and then put a bit of cream on them. Over
the years I only recall one pair where the chamois went out before the
lycra.

Regards,

Tom

whinds wrote:

> Since reading recent posts about bike shorts problems I'm wondering
> if anyone here repairs their shorts when the chamois wear out? I
> still have my old shorts that started with leather chamois. The lycra
> is still good but the chamois has shredded completely. I do more
> miles using the synthetics but they eventually wear out also. While I
> still use the worn shorts on short rides I'm wondering can the
> chamois be replaced? I know about the white shorts that has a padding
> built in. I suppose I could use a old pair to make a pattern but what
> material would I use?

By the time the chamois is worn out, the lycra has probably lost most of its
"snap" too.

Matt O.

In the old days of Pearl Izumi, you could order replacement Chamois from
them--only $10. Taking out the original ones took a lot of patience with
the intricate double stitching, but anyone with a sewing machine could put
the new chamois in. I suspect you may be able to find a replacement chamois
from someplace, but by the time you add in all the time and hassle, new
shorts may be more economical.

Cheers, Shawn

PS: I like "top posting" better, so bite me if you are so inclined.

"whinds" <billhinds@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040413193222.22963.00000194@mb-m22.aol.com...
> Since reading recent posts about bike shorts problems I'm wondering if
anyone
> here repairs their shorts when the chamois wear out?

Shawn Amir wrote:
> In the old days of Pearl Izumi, you could order replacement Chamois from
> them--only $10. Taking out the original ones took a lot of patience with
> the intricate double stitching, but anyone with a sewing machine could put
> the new chamois in. I suspect you may be able to find a replacement chamois
> from someplace, but by the time you add in all the time and hassle, new
> shorts may be more economical.
>
> Cheers, Shawn
>
> PS: I like "top posting" better, so bite me if you are so inclined.

Boasting that you're an inconsiderate moron. Brilliant.

Greg

No boasts and nothing inconsiderate, since I take care to edit what I reply
to. I am simply of the opinion that top posting works better, much easier
to read without having to scroll. Then again I was answering a real
question the OP asked, so maybe that does make me inconsiderate--or is it
that I have an opinion other than yours?

Go back to your hole, next time I will bring you a doggy biscuit you self
righteous little twit.

Cheers, Shawn

"G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:ngifc.22610$SE3.4242@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
>
> Boasting that you're an inconsiderate moron. Brilliant.
>
> Greg
>

Shawn Amir wrote:
> No boasts and nothing inconsiderate, since I take care to edit what I reply
> to. I am simply of the opinion that top posting works better, much easier
> to read without having to scroll. Then again I was answering a real
> question the OP asked, so maybe that does make me inconsiderate--or is it
> that I have an opinion other than yours?
>
> Go back to your hole, next time I will bring you a doggy biscuit you self
> righteous little twit.
>

Keep digging your hole, moron.

Greg

> Cheers, Shawn
>
> "G.T." <getnews1@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:ngifc.22610$SE3.4242@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>Boasting that you're an inconsiderate moron. Brilliant.
>>
>>Greg
>>

In article <dYhfc.22603$zy3.13959@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com>, "Shawn Amir"
<ShawnAmir@SBCGlobal.net> writes:

>
>In the old days of Pearl Izumi, you could order replacement Chamois from
>them--only $10. Taking out the original ones took a lot of patience with
>the intricate double stitching, but anyone with a sewing machine could put
>the new chamois in. I suspect you may be able to find a replacement chamois
>from someplace, but by the time you add in all the time and hassle, new
>shorts may be more economical.
>
>Cheers, Shawn
>
>PS: I like "top posting" better, so bite me if you are so inclined.
>

Such a short message what's the big deal? I appreciate the reply. My wife has a
device that she uses to rip threads out that is pretty fast, but then I've
never tried ripping out a chamois. I keep my cost low on about everything
except shoes and shorts. I try to buy them when on sale, one or two pair at a
time, usually store or off brand. It's just that most times the shorts seem to
outlast the chamois and I hate to just toss the remainder. Most of my daily
rides are over 50 miles and without chamois is not pleasant.

In article <3d39879c.0404140824.28163e8@posting.google.com>,
ctschmitz@earthlink.net (Tom) writes:

>billhinds@aol.comnospam (whinds) wrote in message
>news:<20040413193222.22963.00000194@mb-m22.aol.com>...
>> Since reading recent posts about bike shorts problems I'm wondering if
>anyone
>> here repairs their shorts when the chamois wear out? I still have my old
>shorts
>> that started with leather chamois. The lycra is still good but the chamois
>has
>> shredded completely. I do more miles using the synthetics but they
>eventually
>> wear out also. While I still use the worn shorts on short rides I'm
>wondering
>> can the chamois be replaced? I know about the white shorts that has a
>padding
>> built in. I suppose I could use a old pair to make a pattern but what
>material
>> would I use?
>
>This is not likely to be an economically viable solution. Beyond
>looking though the chamois at Pep Boys for the best piece, I've no
>idea where you might buy the stuff.
>
>Unless you are an accomplished seamster (seamstress didn't seem the
>right thing to say) you're likely to wind up with bunched-up chamois
>or bunched-up lycra when you stich it together.
>
>If this is a really nice pair of shorts I might suggest Kucharik to
>repair them; you'd have to ask him if he'd be willing to fix them.
>ISTR that he will re-chamois his own shorts for a fee.
>
>Now, howdja shred the chamois and not the lycra? Didja machine wash
>and dry them instead of hand washing them, hanging them to dry in a
>westerly breeze not less than 5 mph nor mor than 8 mph, then carefully
>applying chamois cream while sitting in a lotus position?
>
>All kidding aside, I find that machine washing them has done no harm,
>but I let them dry naturally and then put a bit of cream on them.
>
>Regards,
>
>Tom
Guilty as charged, Tom. I washed them in a regular washing machine and hung
them to dry. I relied on sweat to soften them up. When I got sore I used
Vasiline.
I probably put them in the dryer a few times too which didn't help. A pair or
two have ratty elastic on one leg or the other but I wear them anyway. By ratty
I mean a few broken threads not completely destroyed. I've thought about the
Pep Boy's chamois but hoped that there was someone who a sold a packaged
replacement.


>Over he years I only recall one pair where the chamois went out before the
>lycra.

Most likely as soon as I replace the pad then the seams on the legs or the
elastic will go. Probably not a large enough market for anyone to bother. I saw
an advert for one short where they attach theirs without stitching which would
prevent future repairs.

Shawn Amir <ShawnAmir@SBCGlobal.net> wrote in message
dYhfc.22603$zy3.13959@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com

[...]

> PS: I like "top posting" better, so bite me if you are so inclined.

Your lack of consideration for others is noted.

--

"Posting at the top because that's where the cursor happened to be is like
shitting in your pants because that's where your asshole happened to be."
Andreas Prilop

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whinds wrote:
> Guilty as charged, Tom. I washed them in a regular washing machine and hung
> them to dry. I relied on sweat to soften them up. When I got sore I used
> Vasiline.
> I probably put them in the dryer a few times too which didn't help. A pair or
> two have ratty elastic on one leg or the other but I wear them anyway. By ratty
> I mean a few broken threads not completely destroyed. I've thought about the
> Pep Boy's chamois but hoped that there was someone who a sold a packaged
> replacement.

We do sell replacements, shaped properly with a pad. Less
work by far than a piece of goatskin from a car parts shop.

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Andrew Muzi
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