Hip's Next Machine - Road Fixie

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Here's a ready made solution (if I was in the States):
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/bianchi04/pistase.html

Like the look of this one too: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/gunnar-street
dog.htm

from a list of a few: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed.htm

At the moment, it looks like I'll get a White Industries EN
eccentric fixed/free hub from aussie distributor Atomic Industrie
and fit that to a used frame. Bicycle Recycle have some frames in m
size I want to look at

There's also the option of a Surly Steamroller which would negate th
use of the $225 ENO with its horizontal track ends. It doesn't appear i
a local google much though..

Other parts will be mishmash of new and stuff I drag out of storage

Any comments so far? ;

hipp


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Hi

They all look good to me. Anything looks better than my recentl
converted Repco Traveller. However, my total cost was $65 to buy th
bike from a mate and $85 for the LBS to do the conversion

Feel like a dorc when riding to work on the bike track, especially whe
I pass one of my road cycling friends. But I'm getting a good workou
and learning how to handle the damn thing

When I get a bit more competent I might go for a better quality bik
like the ones on the link and even give the track a try (on my own o
course). I can hear "she who must be obeyed" bleating about it now

I tried to get a 2nd hand fixie (under $500) over the web but ther
wasn't much interest in anyone selling me one. Need a big frame (58 t
60). Any ideas

Spide


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hippy wrote:
> Any comments so far? ;) hippy


You'll blow your knee young man


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>Originally posted by Spider1977 They all look good to me. Anythin
>looks better than my >recently converted Repco Traveller. However, m
>total cost was $65 to buy the bike from a mate and $85 for the LBS t
>do the conversion

I was going to originally do a hack job on a $50 bike, but decided
wanted something a little nicer because like the SS I'd probably ge
addicted to riding it

>I tried to get a 2nd hand fixie (under $500) over the web but >ther
>wasn't much interest in anyone selling me one. Need a >big frame (58 t
>60). Any ideas

That's funny - I bought my track bike for $500 with a selection of gear
a second set of wheels (Campag Record singles). It was in a fairl
common size too (55cm). I found mine on www.tradingpost.com.au

I know there was a MASSIVE frame for sale at my LBS but I think it wa
bigger than what you are after

You could try asking any trackies or the club at the track. I als
emailed the bike shops I knew that specialised in track racing abou
bikes. Keep an eye out on ebay too. One will pop up eventually

hth hipp


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ooh nice, fixies are cool. Not saying I'd have the guts to ride on
myself off the track..

There's a couple of crazy couriers in the city with fixies and only
front brake, they came into Cecil Walkers a fair bit when I was doin
work experience there

Sorry, this post is being rather pointless. :p What sort of wheels woul
you have on the bike? Obviously track wheels with the Surly frame (whic
looks nice, btw, but you'll be struggling to find one in Australia
possibly order from the US? I do have a review of a Surly 1x1 in
Bicycling Australia from 3 or so years ago which should have th
distributor's name, but I'm not sure I can be stuffed getting out of be
at 11.35 ;)) but with any other frame, would you just build up, say
some Mavic CXP's with the White Bros. ENO hub


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Etxy wrote:
> but I'm not sure I can be stuffed getting out of bed at 11.35 ;)


The sacrifices I make, kiddo... :p Who needs sleep anyway. In the spac
of 8 months, it seems, Bicycling Australia did two reviews of singl
speed bikes

November 2001- A review of an On-One Inbred, single speed mountain bike
On-One, quoth BA, is an English brand with Reynolds steel frames
Distributor is- On-One Oz Ph. no- 03) 9431 584

April 2001- A review of a Surly 1x1. Surly was the brand you wer
interested in, so I'll cut to the chase. It says the distributor was
Dirt Works Ph. no- 02) 9679 8400 Website- www.dirtworks.com.a

Might be worth giving Dirt Works a ring or email; even if they're no
still distributing Surly stuff, they could probably give you a prett
good idea of who to turn to next

And as for me? I'm going to sleep. :


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Surly's are carried at Spoke(n) in the CB

Hey Hippy. you mentioned Bicycle recycl

Do you go there often and if not how did you know what they ha
currently

Been meaning to wander down there and poke about for bits for my S
(and possibly my next 700c/rod SS - no comments on buying bits, fro
you either!

What are prices/stock/anything like??

AH-FlyingDutc


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cfsmtb wrote:
> You'll blow your knee young man.


Knee? What knee? They both disappeared when I found out what
singlespeed was ;-

hipp


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>Originally posted by Etxy
>The sacrifices I make, kiddo... :p Who needs sleep anyway.

I do at the moment :

>On-One Inbre

Yep, I've lusted after these bikes for quite a while now but I'd decide
to build a road frame rather than mtb. BUT, you've reminded me abou
their Il Pompino cyclocross frame which could be a nice option. I thin
there was a review of this in one of my mags.. must look.

>Surly 1x
This was going to be my alternative to the Inbred. Now that I'm ont
road frames the Steamroller is the model o' choice. I believe DirtWork
still do Surly - I should ask..

Thanks dude

hipp


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>Originally posted by wassupdawg Surly's are carried at Spoke(n
>in the CB

I think most LBS's can get access to the DirtWorks catalog. Do you kno
if they have any of the frames in the store? I should get off m
backside once in a while and head into all the cool city bike stores.
just for a look..

>Hey Hippy. you mentioned Bicycle recycl

No, no that was another hippy... not me, no way ;

>Do you go there often and if not how did you know what they ha
>currently

Never been there before. The reason I know what they have is that
called and they checked their stock of 56cm frames. They had 2 in stock
They also said they had plans to put their stock online - but I've hear
that from shops before :

>Been meaning to wander down there and poke about for bits >for my S
>(and possibly my next 700c/rod SS - no comments on buying bits, fro
>you either!

Buying parts for an SS.. NOOOOOO!!! ;) It's ok man.. I'll probably en
up spending large $$ on this next bike anyway :

>What are prices/stock/anything like??

All I know of is the two 56cm road frames. $200 and $250, but I can'
remember the manufacturers

hipp


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>Do you know if they have any of the frames in the store
Yes they have a few 1x1's (and mentioned an anniversary model in brigh
pink! not for this liddle bwack duck, mifter!

All I know of is the two 56cm road frames. $200 and $250, but I can'
remember the manufacturers

horizontal dropout jobs? Oh, hang on. you mentioned the white Bro
eccentric number, didnt you. The Melb Uni bike shop apprently is very S
orientated and has one on display - droooool

seeing as I have an entire Veloce grouppo sitting about doing nothing,
guess I can use the BB, cranks, Headset, forks (wicked chromed straigh
numbers :-) ), stem, ergos and brakes for the project. BB and headse
may not be up to it (PS how much stuff do you keep lying around?

then its just a matter of getting the handlebars and seatpost an
rearhub/cog and built up into my Campag Atlanta aero rims (know you'l
like that!

PPS is there any rule of thumb cranklength wise re SSing? Do yo
stay the same, go longer for greater leverage or shorter fo
better spinning


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flyingdutch wrote:

> PPS is there any rule of thumb cranklength wise re SSing? Do you sta
> the same, go longer for greater leverage or shorter for bette
> spinning

Shorter is good, both to improve spinning (which is what it's all abou
anyway) and to improve ground clearance (especially with non-trac
frames). I use 170 on mine, though I'd go to 165 on my red one if I ha
them, as it's a road frame with a typical low bottom bracket


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hippy wrote:

> At the moment, it looks like I'll get a White Industries ENO eccentri
> fixed/free hub from aussie distributor Atomic Industries and fit tha
> to a used frame. Bicycle Recycle have some frames in my size I want t
> look at

For my first road fixed gear, I used an '80s steel road frame, with
rear end spaced for 5/6 speed (120mm). I simply laced a new rear whee
using a Suzue Pro-max track hub (from Sheldon) and Open Pro rim. I use
a road 49 tooth chainwheel that I had banging around with a 19 toot
3/32 cog from Sheldon, and rode. Very cheap, and very satisfying

A pic is at http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/suzyjackson.ht

Regards

Suz


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>>I would fit shorter cranks (165mm) to a road fixie because I know
>>will be pedalling around >>corners. For an SS though, you don't hav
>>that problem so any >>length will be fine

huh? wont I have to pedal round corners on a SS? or is SS the generi
term for 'freewheeling one-geared' whereas 'Fixed' is what I should b
saying, yeah

my Veloce cranks are 172.5'

maybe some of those 'stoker' style bars like one of the gals bought a
Moore's (or was it ebay?) would be cool. was only gonna use the ergo
cos that's what I got (and they have adjustable cable pull so way of
into the future when road-discs are all the go i can use a mechanica
disc on the front;)


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>Originally posted by flyingdutc
>>I would fit shorter cranks (165mm) to a road fixie because I know
>>will be pedalling around >>corners. For an SS though, you don't hav
>>that problem so any >>length will be fine

>huh? wont I have to pedal round corners on a SS? or is SS the generi
>term for 'freewheeling one-geared' >whereas 'Fixed' is what I should b
>saying, yeah

A fixed gear bike forces you to pedal through every corner. An S
(singlespeed, not necessarily fixed gear) will not generally be pedale
through a corner. You usually drop the outside foot and coast throug
(well, I do)

I thought you were building up an SS (freewheeling singlespeed
not a fixie

>my Veloce cranks are 172.5'

Ahh, they'll suit me fine. Just drop them off at my place wil
you? Ta. ;-

>Maybe some of those 'stoker' style bars like one of the gals >bought a
>Moore's (or was it ebay?) would be cool. was onl

Yeah I want to at least try them. If I like - they stay

>gonna use the ergos cos that's what I go

Now you're getting it :

>(and they have adjustable cable pull so way off into the future >whe
>road-discs are all the go i can use a mechanical disc on >the front;)

I'd say "Yeah, in your dreams", but I know when people say that,
months later full ultralight hydro disc brakes come out for road bikes

hipp


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nah, I wanna go fixie'

can go with my soon-to-be-permanent hardcore 'sicklist' look (tat) an
being able to scoff at nancies on bikes with gears at the lights (wh
settle for comfort, ease-of-use and other such loookserries!

maybe i need one of those poles with a foxtail on it too. and one o
those horns that go.... nah-neh-nah..... oh bugger, cant figure how t
type it...


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>Originally posted by flyingdutch nah, I wanna go fixie'

Ahh ok, call it a fixie then rather than SS so I know what you mean ;0

>can go with my soon-to-be-permanent hardcore 'sicklist' look (tat) an
>being able to scoff at nancies on bikes with gears at >the lights (wh
>settle for comfort, ease-of-use and other such >loookserries!

At least if you ever see me and bag me for riding a geared bike, I ca
remind you of someone who owns a triple hehehe ;

What's your tatt going to say/look like? Mine will say "That's not ho
you spell Collnaggo".. or not ;

>maybe i need one of those poles with a foxtail on it too. and >one o
>those horns that go.... nah-neh-nah..... oh bugger, cant >figure how t
>type it...

Don't forget all the chrome, the neons and the sick mate fully su
woofer fully sick mate..

hippy "can I go home now?


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Or http://www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_quickbeam.html. I bought one of
their Romulus bikes a few months ago. Very nice and pretty good value
even after paying shipping and import duties. Mind you, the $A has
dropped about 12% against the $US since I purchased...

Or get an 2nd hand bike with horizontal dropouts and freewheel hubs
(these are usually pretty cheap, even when of good quality) and convert
it to a fixed wheel by putting on a track cog in place of the freewheel
and using a cup-and-cone bottom bracket lockring as a lockring (lockring
not needed if you have brakes on the bike). Run the chain on the inner
chainring of a double crankset to get a good chainline. I converted my
20-year-old tourer to a fixed wheel in that way and now use it for
commuting on crappy days. The only parts I had to buy were the track cog
and a new chain.

Nick

hippy wrote:
> Here's a ready made solution (if I was in the States):
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/bianchi04/pistase.html
>
> Like the look of this one too: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/gunnar-street-
> dog.html
>
> from a list of a few: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed.html
>
> At the moment, it looks like I'll get a White Industries ENO
> eccentric fixed/free hub from aussie distributor Atomic Industries
> and fit that to a used frame. Bicycle Recycle have some frames in my
> size I want to look at.
>
> There's also the option of a Surly Steamroller which would negate the
> use of the $225 ENO with its horizontal track ends. It doesn't appear in
> a local google much though...
>
> Other parts will be mishmash of new and stuff I drag out of storage.

>>At least if you ever see me and bag me for riding a geared >>bike,
>>can remind you of someone who owns a triple hehehe ;

Low-blow

do the Alpine Classic and get back to me matey :

>>What's your tatt going to say/look like

did some trials on weekend. you know how when you've been riding a bik
and you stop and get on-off the bike and you get home and realise yo
have yet again managed to put a perfect print of your big chainring o
the inside of your calf? Well, mines gonna be permanent eek: :eek: :eek

a few months back sitting round, beers in hand being philosopher
bouncin' round what would would you get as a tattoo? Well the only thin
I could concievably justify that was with me for life and coursing thr
me viens was bikes..


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>Originally posted by flyingdutc
>>At least if you ever see me and bag me for riding a geared >>bike,
>>can remind you of someone who owns a triple hehehe ;

>Low-blow

Sorry, couldn't resist! :-

>do the Alpine Classic and get back to me matey :

Okay! <looks around for helicopter option
Do (m)any non-racer people do that on a double? There's always th
push option :

>>What's your tatt going to say/look like

>print of your big chainring on the inside of your calf? Well, mine
>gonna be permanent eek: :eek: :eek

Noooooo! :

>tattoo? Well the only thing I could concievably justify that was >wit
>me for life and coursing thru me viens was bikes..

Yeah, I thought the same thing when I typed that question. Of course
I've always been opposed to tatts (on me) so I'd never get one. An arts
sprocket tatt would be nice. Or a wheel. Maybe if I was obsessed with
single bike brand/model - it's logo


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